Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-26-2005, 12:09 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sweden
How do you play octaves..

Sign in to disble this ad
I'm working on my strict alternation and i found out that i get som problems when i do octaves, let's say you this riff:

G||----------------7---7-------------|---||
D||------7---7-----------------7---7-|---||
A||------------5-5---5---5-5---------|---||
E||--5-5---5-----------------5---5---|---||

it feels abit weird to play the low notes with my middle finger and the high with my index, am i the only one with this problem?
  #2  
Old 05-26-2005, 12:56 PM
embellisher's Avatar
Holy Ghost filled Bass Player
Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Heber Springs, Arkansas
Supporting Member
Are you talking about your fretting hand, or your plucking hand?
__________________
Experience is what you get, when you don't get what you want.

45 year old freshman
  #3  
Old 05-26-2005, 01:44 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sweden
the plucking hand.
  #4  
Old 05-26-2005, 02:01 PM
Bryan R. Tyler's Avatar
TalkBass: Usurping My Practice Time Since 2002

Endorsing Artist: Lyt Pedalboards Beta tester: Source Audio
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Connecticut
I never alternate between my index and middle when playing octaves-unless it's a really slow song, it's just just not at all efficient to switch back and forth between them for octave. I either use index for the low note and middle for high or my thumb for low and index and middle for high.
  #5  
Old 05-26-2005, 02:21 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
I usualy use index for the low and middle for the high.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #6  
Old 05-26-2005, 02:35 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Metro NYC
Send a message via AIM to Richard Lindsey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan R. Tyler
I never alternate between my index and middle when playing octaves-unless it's a really slow song, it's just just not at all efficient to switch back and forth between them for octave. I either use index for the low note and middle for high or my thumb for low and index and middle for high.
Yeah, me too.

Nowhere is it written that you have to alternate always and everywhere. I learned alternation from playing classical guitar, but even in that setting, the main value is in scalar or somewhat scalar passages and mutiple notes on a single string. It's not used for arpeggios, and it's not always practical when you're skipping strings.
__________________
"I think; therefore I am." --Rene Descartes
"I think I think; therefore I think I am." --Ambrose Bierce
"I am ... I said." -- Neil Diamond
B1500 Club #18
ABG Club #89
  #7  
Old 05-26-2005, 07:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Maria Stein, OH
I use index for the low pitch and middle for the octave.

It can get a little more complicated when you aren't simply alternating between the two octaves.

For example, it's more difficult to play an 8th on the low pitch followed by two 16ths on the octave (like on chorus of the disco hit YMCA) so you'd have to adjust then.
  #8  
Old 05-27-2005, 12:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
I alternate if it isn't super fast. Pretty much go with what feels most natural.

But with a little time with the nome you can get pretty good results alternating.
  #9  
Old 05-27-2005, 06:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa, ON
Send a message via AIM to jadesmar Send a message via Yahoo to jadesmar
FWIW: I would probably skip-string rake, as such:
Code:
G||----------------7---7-------------|---||
D||------7---7-----------------7---7-|---||
A||------------5-5---5---5-5---------|---||
E||--5-5---5-----------------5---5---|---||
     i m i i m-i m i i m-i m m i m i
I suppose it depends on the feel, this looks like 5/8 5/8 6/8. And hence, I would pluck it as such.
  #10  
Old 05-27-2005, 08:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
If the tempo is really fast, you could use a hammer-on for the higher pitch. After you hammer-on, release slightly while still touching the string to mute it. This will allow your fingers to play quickly on the lower pitches. I just tried it out with fantastic results. It may take a little practice to balance the attack of the lower fingered pitches and higher hammer-on pitches. Try it.

Good Luck!
Joe

PS. For the YMCA disco thing, I use my thumb for the lower 8th note pitches, and the index/middle for the two 16th note higher pitches. You have to use a very light touch on the strings. It's just another technique to put in your tool box for those special sticky situations.
__________________
Public school orchestra director, rock covers, funky organ trio bassist. Lover of soulful things.
  #11  
Old 05-27-2005, 08:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ashburn and Blacksburg VA
Send a message via AIM to bassist66
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJK84
I use index for the low pitch and middle for the octave
same here
  #12  
Old 05-27-2005, 10:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
PS. For the YMCA disco thing, I use my thumb for the lower 8th note pitches, and the index/middle for the two 16th note higher pitches. You have to use a very light touch on the strings. It's just another technique to put in your tool box for those special sticky situations

I tried doing this (I saw a blondie video for atomic and her bassist did this) but it slows me down... I developed this kinda odd technique when teaching myself "Do you think I'm Sexy" by Rod Stewart

|---77--77--|
|-----------|
|-5---5-----|
|-----------|
--i-im-i-im---

I deaden the D string and bring my index back with my middle just incase I am to hit it
  #13  
Old 05-28-2005, 07:31 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Michigan, USA
Send a message via AIM to Petary791 Send a message via MSN to Petary791 Send a message via Yahoo to Petary791 Send a message via Skype™ to Petary791
Depends on how fast the song is for me. If it's slow, i'll use my thumb and a finger (whichever is more convienent) but if it's faster ill use my pointer and middle finger.
__________________
Remember, grammar is the difference between, "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse," and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse."
  #14  
Old 05-28-2005, 09:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzin'
I usualy use index for the low and middle for the high.
That is what I usually do as well. Sometimes I use my index and ring finger for the low notes and my middle for the octave. That is what I feel comfortable doing when I play anyway.
  #15  
Old 05-28-2005, 07:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa, ON
Send a message via AIM to jadesmar Send a message via Yahoo to jadesmar
Here's an interesting RH practice for the skip-rake I was referring to. It can be quite fast and accurate and once you know which beats you wish to accent, useful.

Code:
-----------------
---7---7---7---7-
-----------------
-5---5---5---5---
 i m m i i m m i
  #16  
Old 05-29-2005, 04:14 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden
Good way to learn straight octaves is to play Iron Maidens "fear of the dark" (the non-distorted bit int he beginning and the end). That was one of the first things I learned to play on the bass.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:08 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.