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Old 04-21-2009, 12:20 AM
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In my current band (with a rhythm guitarist, lead guitarist, drummer, and singer) I play alot of unison with my rhythm guitarist. We're an original hard rock band for your curiousity. I am fairly new to a band environment, but I find when I shy away from the guitar (while keeping rhythm), it makes the bass stand out.

Me personally, I use some of these tools of the trade:

Syncopation, add some weak beats, take away some strong beats, always the funnest part of playing the bass for me

Play a quick run, or just change the last few notes of the bar(Play a perfect 5th, octave, something along those lines)

Solo..... I know this one makes people cringe. But when both guitars play rhythm, it leaves you to throw in a little lead lick. I usually keep it safe, in the same scale structure or a similar mode ( I - IV -V for life! heh) I keep it short, just enough to make the song pop, then I pull back and let the lead guitarist do his job.

Last but not least, I play to the drums. It seems obvious and easy, but alot of new bassists miss this point. Instead of plucking away at that single note like a mad man. I'll play the scale out to the drum beat. So if the rhythm guitarist is tearin away on D minor, building tension or whatever them crazy guitarists do, I'll play the D minor scale. You can actually change the whole feel of the song if you invert it from D Minor to F Major. As long as it doesnt add to much tension, it can be killer if done right.


Well thats what works for me for the most part. Every song ya play is different, and has more / less wiggle room to add something cool in it.

But what do you all use? Sometimes your fingers just go to what sounds good, but besides that, do you have a general guideline you follow for NOT shadowing the guitarist and not playing in unison?


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Old 04-21-2009, 11:28 AM
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well, I write everything in my music, so I try to play "bassic" rhythm patherns, while I make the guitars move more in the harmony, but with long chords

well, that's just one way to do it, of course I too give melodies to the bass, specially fills, I guess that's the most natural way
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a bass is like a woman.. u gotta treat her right to get her to make those good sounds.. a guitar is like a man.. u can beat it all u want but its never gonna do anything worthwhile...

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I go the Bach route, and try to make my basslines and melodic and stand-alone as possible.
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a guitar is like a man.. u can beat it all u want but its never gonna do anything worthwhile...

and i'm not gay so i dont wanna touch a man intimately

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:45 AM
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That being said, we only have a lead guitarist and a key player. So, I guess its different with no rhythm guitarist.
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yeah i have no idea what i'm talking about at the moment.. continue..
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Well, despite the fact that I write everything in my band and I can have more than enough room for the bass, sometimes you gotta stick with the guitar instead of shying away from it. There are some riffs, some parts of the song that need this great unison to sound massive, strong, "confident", if you will. It's not really a bad thing, just a matter of choice.

Apart from that, in the parts that don't fall under the aforementioned category, I try to keep it relatively simple and strangely melodic, or go down the disharmonic way. There are tons of stuff you can use to make the bass stand out in a song, just experiment with everything.
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Old 04-24-2009, 12:41 AM
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I don't try to "shy away from the guitar", but I like to think of my bass as a drumset with strings.
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With 2 guitarists I tend to restrict my playing to laying the harmony and groove. I don't want to pick from their plate.
I play a lot with tone to compensate. I like to use a very heavy, borderline obnoxious sound to really give a comfy seat to the music.
It all resolves to the song though. Sometimes I may be all over the neck if it's what it calls for.
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