How he plays so damm fast???

[Music_for_life]

I am refering to stratovarius bassist..Listen!!!
YouTube - Stratovarius - Kiss of Judas (live in Provinssirock '99)

What is he doing in the fast runs at the intro???

He plays mostly with two fingers, but I don`t understand what is he really playing, what figures and technique.

thanks!

[MonkeyBass]

Looks like three finger sweeping to me.

[Meddle]

Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

[ThatBassistDude]

Originally Posted by Meddle

Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

Really, power metal takes a lot of creativity, and is one of the best sub genres of metal, what puts you in the position to insult someone elses music. Rock on OP glad to see another Stratovarius fan.

[bassplayerbob]

Originally Posted by Music_for_life

What is he doing in the fast runs at the intro???

I believe he is tapping some of the intro(Billy Sheehanish). When he is goofing around with the keyboardist there is a run he plays and it's tapped. Sounds like the into.

[hyp.spec]

Originally Posted by Meddle

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

Because not practicing is what REAL musicians do... right?

[metalinthenight]

Originally Posted by ThatBassistDude

Really, power metal takes a lot of creativity, and is one of the best sub genres. What place do u hold to insult metal. Rock on OP

+1



OP, the real trick to playing that fast is to start AS SLOW AS POSSIBLE. Seriously, practice your scales and riffs agonizingly slow and then move up to a more comfortable speed on your metronome. If you try and play to fast at first, you are just teaching your brain how to do it wrong.

Also, he is using two hand tapping with a lot of hammer-ons and pull-offs, the same kind of thing that Billy Sheehan does a lot of the time, same with Kirk Hammet from Metallica.

It also sounded like he may have been using some sweeping arpeggios, just like most metal guitar players are using in modern metal (i.e. Luca Turilli of Rhapsody of Fire) and bassists like Adam Nitti. Try raking the arpeggios downward with your thumb and raking back upwards with your index finger. You can also use your picking hand to hammer on a third, fifth, or octave (or whatever note really) at the height of your sweep.

Start slow, good luck!

[heywhatcanido]

Originally Posted by Meddle

Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

Says the guy sitting at home posting on an online bass forum. I don't like this music at all either, but I know I'm in no position to criticize, and I'm willing to bet you aren't either.

[Johnny Crab]

Lauri is excellent as well.
YouTube - Lauri Porra, Stratovarius Live at Sofia, 23.01.2011
On this one you can hear he's got his rig set "on edge" so if he plays normally it is fairly clean and when he plays harder it goes to wonderful tube distortion:
YouTube - Stratovarius - Keyboard Interlude (Bach - Air) @ Kåren, Turku
Many more:
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...uri+Porra&aq=f
Read his bio.

Give the "new" CD a listen esp. "Lifetime in a Moment", "Move the Mountain", and "Elysium".

[Bassguy87564]

The bass player sounds like he listened to Billy Sheehan a lot. The first fast line that starts at 0:08 sounds like a quick clime to tapping back to plucking with 3 fingers

[makanudo]

Sorry to hijack thread op but how can i get a tone like that?

I have an Ibanez SR505 and an Acoustic B100 combo amp

[kbuschmann]

Originally Posted by Meddle

Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

So I says to myself, "Now that is one smart and funny man".
Ahhhh......he's a Scot. Sufficient explanation.

[Musiclogic]

Originally Posted by Meddle

Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

This is the type of reply that serves no purpose and is condescending out a purely pathetic need for attention and lack of self esteem. Sad that kids act like this and that some consider it acceptable.

[CntrlScrtnizr]

Originally Posted by Musiclogic

QUOTE=Meddle;10696012]Wow I forgot how lame power metal bands are, and Stratovarius in particular. Seriously how degenerate do you have to be to enjoy this fanboy sub-Tolkein noise as if its actually in any way real music?

As for playing fast, he disciplined his fingers to move fast in time with eachother. You can learn to function a typewriter really fast too. Does not mean you will be producing work to rival Shakespeare.

Ok, more useful answers:

1) Lots of practice whilst the cool kids were out socialising (I'm sure he now gets to bed many fat and emotionally damaged metal chicks so all is good).

2) Low action.

3) Roundwound strings.

4) 'Favourable' EQ and use of overdrive.

This is the type of reply that serves no purpose and is condescending out a purely pathetic need for attention and lack of self esteem. Sad that kids act like this and that some consider it acceptable.

+1
OP...Don't get discouraged...keep practicing.

[Chrisk-K]

Definitely Sheehan-like tapping

[Rudyboy98]

To the OP:

Except for the Scotsman who replied, most everyone else has it right: Practice with a metronome at a slow tempo and gradually increase to normal speed of whatever you want to learn how to play. I've seen Stratovarius live with Lauri and trust you me...he's a monster player. To his credit: He went to a university and is also a composer. He can score music very well.

You can take lessons and discipline yourself to play better. Tapping is just a technique, but understanding what scales are and how to play them is better. You'll develop your own style in good time.

Again...as previously posted: Great to see another Stratovarius fan! Long live Strato!