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07-24-2009, 10:21 AM
| | | | how long does it take you to learn a song?
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hey guys, just wondering how much time you spend learning a song on average. like a couple weeks or can you pick it up in a day?
im workin on power right now, ive bin playing it for about 3 days now prolly 4-5 hours each day, and it feels like ill never get that little double thumping run down.
bass can be so frustrating yet rewarding...
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07-24-2009, 10:30 AM
| | | | well it depends on the genre of the stuff that ur learning... i mainly play funk rock, rock blues so mostly a day or two to perfect it... I dont use tabs anymore find it way more fun doing it by ear... even tho its alot harder with bassists like Les Claypool.
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07-24-2009, 10:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlottesville, VA | | | Depends on the song. Some songs I can get down after playing along with it once, others take forever and never turn out right . . .
Thats a very open ended question.
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07-24-2009, 10:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nashville | | | Depends on the song.
I've learned some songs just listening to it one time in the car on the way home. Others require much more work.
I also learn songs to differing degrees. For example, I'm playing a gig this Saturday where I'm memorizing all the material. 3 hours.
Then Sunday morning, I'm playing a set of five songs where I'll play these once, with a chart. So I'm familiarizing myself with the song and chart but not really worried about putting them into long term memory.
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07-24-2009, 10:53 AM
| | | | Depends on the song. If its difficult (for me) I'll tab it out, that can take a couple hours or so. Then, I'll break it up in to parts and practise those, eventually putting it altogether.
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07-24-2009, 10:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN | | | For starters: Stop using internet tabs if you are, they're nearly never right, and give you nothing rhythmically
Use your ears! Also, most pop tunes are going to have sections- verse, chorus, ect. Figure out each of those sections, then glue it together!
I'm not sure how much music theory you have under your belt, but when faced with a tricky bassline, figure out the key and chord progression first, it'll give you much more to go on.
I'll also share with you the best advice I've been given as a musician by my first teacher: hum every song you hear ever! Radio's on in the car, you're listening to music in your house, you hear something outside somewhere...HUM IT! Match your voice to the melody, then match it to the bassline, the rhythm guitar, EVERYTHING! This will train your ear, and figuring out lines will become much easier.
Good luck!
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07-24-2009, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RyRob813 For starters: Stop using internet tabs if you are, they're nearly never right, and give you nothing rhythmically
Use your ears! Also, most pop tunes are going to have sections- verse, chorus, ect. Figure out each of those sections, then glue it together!
I'm not sure how much music theory you have under your belt, but when faced with a tricky bassline, figure out the key and chord progression first, it'll give you much more to go on.
I'll also share with you the best advice I've been given as a musician by my first teacher: hum every song you hear ever! Radio's on in the car, you're listening to music in your house, you hear something outside somewhere...HUM IT! Match your voice to the melody, then match it to the bassline, the rhythm guitar, EVERYTHING! This will train your ear, and figuring out lines will become much easier.
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yah, i kinda apply the same thing to songs i learn, i whistle them before i play them, i can't even whistle power right now (the one part is too fast for me), i figure when im able to whistle power i can make a better stab at playing it...
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07-24-2009, 11:13 AM
|  | Bass lines like a big, funky giant | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southern MN | | | I usually need to play it once, then listen to it while I transcribe the chord pattern myself, then play it once more. I find it's the act of transcribing the chord pattern that makes me "learn" the song quickly. +1 to not using internet tabs to learn songs. | 
07-24-2009, 11:16 AM
| | | | Not to toot my own horn, but I have a heck of an ear. Usually learning a song takes me a minute or two.
Oh yeah, tabs are bad. The reason I developed my ear is because I got fed up with bad tabs. | 
07-24-2009, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by southernrocker Not to toot my own horn, but I have a heck of an ear. Usually learning a song takes me a minute or two.
Oh yeah, tabs are bad. The reason I developed my ear is because I got fed up with bad tabs. | Yes, internet tabs are for the most part not only bad, but totally useless. I series of notes on a series of strings doesn't give you anything. But not all tabs are that useless. As I have stated here before, when a tab is writen showing bars, time sigs, keys, note duration etc...then it can be a pretty handy tool for learning a tune.
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07-24-2009, 11:39 AM
|  | Impersonal Confuser. | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno, CA | | Back in the 80's, when I was learning to play, we didn't have computers and the internet (TSR 80's and Commodor 64's don't count), so there was no other way to learn than either by ear, or if you're lucky, having a friend or a brother who can play the song show you the difficult parts. Now you can go to YouTube, and more likely than not, you can find someone showing you how to play a song. But like TABS, accuracy may vary.
Here is a great example of a YouTuber providing a HUGE amount of help with a song - " Things She Said" by Toy Matinee / Kevin Gilbert. That guy was a stinklin' musical genius he was!
More KG Love, Here and especially Here. The Guy Rocked!!!
Then there's this guy doing Crowded House's " Don't Dream It's Over". Not accurate per se, but it's a very nice cover. And this guy's voice is so smooth and sweet. What a gift.
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07-24-2009, 11:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK | | | For me it depends on pressure. If its for the band i tend to pick it up quickly becasue i don't want to be the one that lets the sound down because I'm fubling around tryna find the notes. If I'm learning a song just because then i fond it much harder to digest!
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07-24-2009, 11:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas | | Quote:
Originally Posted by TL5 Depends on the song.
I've learned some songs just listening to it one time in the car on the way home. Others require much more work.
| +1 Some tunes I can learn at a gig when the song is already going. Others like 'What Is Hip' I started when I was 12 & I'm still working on it.
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07-24-2009, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland Oregon | | | Usually by the end of the first time we play it through....Took me a couple of days to learn Bach's - Cello Suite No.1 i-Prelude...
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07-24-2009, 01:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boston, MA | | | Depends of the song and the genre. I just learned Avishai Cohen's "Dror" in about an hour, and it has a number of odd shifts on time, but it's really just a bunch of repeated licks.
Try learning the walking bass line of a good jazz song. That could take some time.
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