how to make a fender jazz scream

panazza · #1 12-24-2003, 07:36 PM

hi...
my MiM jazz has a warm round tone but I would like it to be e little more angry... someone knows how to equalize it to make it sound that way? I tried to raise the pickup height but the strings hit the pickups... i tried to use the bridge pickup but it seems to me that the neck pickup just sounds better... If you know some amp settings to make it a bit more aggressive please help me...

ps I considered buying brighter strings but I will use original fender string until they last

Brad Johnson · #2 12-24-2003, 07:38 PM

Plug it into a Gibson amp?

Bardolph · #3 12-24-2003, 07:48 PM

What kind of amp do you have? If you have any external effects you could try adding a very slight amount of distortion or if your amp has a gain knob turn that up while still being careful not to overpower it.

Tyler Hole · #4 12-24-2003, 08:59 PM

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how to make a fender jazz scream

Put it in a fire

edit: In all seriousness...use Stainless Steel strings. They make it scream, TRUST ME!

odie · #5 12-24-2003, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Brad Johnson
Plug it into a Gibson amp?

Funny you mentioned that!!

Oh Dear God!!!!! When I was first starting out I knew a fellow bassist that used on. It was a tall stck with the head built in. Reminded me of an Ampeg 6x10.

Freaking mud tone!! Terrible.

Treena Foster · #6 12-24-2003, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by panazza
hi...
my MiM jazz has a warm round tone but I would like it to be e little more angry... someone knows how to equalize it to make it sound that way? I tried to raise the pickup height but the strings hit the pickups... i tried to use the bridge pickup but it seems to me that the neck pickup just sounds better... If you know some amp settings to make it a bit more aggressive please help me...

ps I considered buying brighter strings but I will use original fender string until they last

If you can boost your amp around 200K hz, this will help some.

A second option, I suggest is to purchase an outboard Sadowsky Preamp.

http://www.sadowsky.com/pages/framesets/fs_preamp.html

Treena

Brilliant Fool · #7 12-24-2003, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Treena Foster
If you can boost your amp around 200K hz, this will help some.

A second option, I suggest is to purchase an outboard Sadowsky Preamp.

http://www.sadowsky.com/pages/framesets/fs_preamp.html

Treena

Mosdef, those preamps are awesome.

Luis Fabara · #8 12-25-2003, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Treena Foster
If you can boost your amp around 200K hz, this will help some.

Treena

200KHz? Thats way out of the Human Audio Spectrum...

If you meant 200Hz then I dont agree, 200Hz muds the tone.
If you mean 2Khz then I agree somewhat, that frequency is good to bring some life.

800Hz and 2.5KHz are good points to try.

Showdown · #9 12-25-2003, 03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Luis Fabara
200KHz? Thats way out of the Human Audio Spectrum...

If you meant 200Hz then I dont agree, 200Hz muds the tone.
If you mean 2Khz then I agree somewhat, that frequency is good to bring some life.

800Hz and 2.5KHz are good points to try.

I don't agree that 200hz muds the tone. I often boost in the 200-250HZ range to help cut through better in a band situation.

Halftooth · #10 12-25-2003, 03:30 AM

I actually think that 200-250 is a very good point to boost along with 800 and 1.5-2K. To me, midrange is what makes your bass stand out.

panazza · #11 12-25-2003, 03:32 AM

as always...thanx for help
regarding stainless steel strings... I am collecting money for a set of DR hi-beams....
I have a boss overdrive but I would like to make the bass scream by itself because I use the pedal the make bigger distorted sound...
well 200 khz isn't that a bit... muddy??? yesterday I tried mids at 500 hz and the sound is so... boomy!!! It scares me!!! :-) But if I raise the mid freq it becomes too trebley and brilliant

(my amp is an ebg gorm...350w combo one 15' speaker and tweeter... I tried raising the tweeter DBs but it kust became more noisy)

panazza · #12 12-25-2003, 10:13 AM

er...not ebg... EBS

Showdown · #13 12-25-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by panazza

well 200 khz isn't that a bit... muddy??? yesterday I tried mids at 500 hz and the sound is so... boomy!!! It scares me!!! :-) But if I raise the mid freq it becomes too trebley and brilliant

As I said before, I don't think 200Hz is muddy, in fact it helps me cut through a loud band. I also tend to cut 500Hz a little - about 3db. The combination seems to work best for me.

JimK · #14 12-25-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Brad Johnson
Plug it into a Gibson amp?

I'm old enough to get that!
Good one!

Treena Foster · #15 12-26-2003, 02:20 AM

Typo, 200 hz, sorry about that gentlemen.

Treena

Osama_Spears · #16 12-27-2003, 12:50 AM

tone + treble

NioeZero · #17 12-27-2003, 09:37 AM

Buy a Proco Juggernaut...

Metal Mitch · #18 01-07-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by NioeZero
Buy a Proco Juggernaut...

Ha! looking to sell yours, Nioe?

200Hz might sound good, but I don't think it's the "scream" frequency. I agree with Luis - it's more like 800Hz.

I've found a Jazz bass usually needs a bit of a bump at 300Hz, while a P-bass needs a bump at 400Hz.

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Originally posted by panazza
my MiM jazz has a warm round tone but I would like it to be e little more angry... someone knows how to equalize it to make it sound that way?

EQ is not the answer. For an angry sound you need a hot pickup.

Stephen Soto · #19 01-08-2004, 02:43 AM

i think that the sadowsky eq sounds good.
have you ever listened to billy sheehan? that guys makes his fjazz come to life man!

Metal Mitch · #20 01-08-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Stephen Soto
have you ever listened to billy sheenan? that guys makes his fjazz come to life man!

I'll assume you meant Billy Sheehan. He doesn't play a Jazz.

http://www.billysheehan.com/main_gear.html