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02-10-2013, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Febs Congratulations on your progress! Do you still thnk that the people who suggested learning to use all of the strings are "snobby bass player elite"? | I don't think people who suggest it are. I do think that people who insist on it are. One thing I've noticed is that a bunch of you misunderstood what I'm saying: Those who do use technique and theory and prefer it aren't snobs. If you can noodle all over the fretboard and go crazy, good for you. But if you insist others do it your way, get over yourself. You know? | 
02-11-2013, 12:51 PM
| | | | I play mostly punk rock too, and I've never heard a punk rock band that plays just on the E string.
I don't think you're aware to how much the bassline can effect the song... Listen to bands like The Descendents, A Wilhelm Scream, Rancid, Straightaway...
Playing on different strings actually effects the tone of the note.
For example: Playing D on the 5th fret of the A string will sound sharper than the 10th fret of the E string..
Stop being insecure and use your bass properly. | 
02-11-2013, 01:57 PM
| | | | If you read my previous posts, you would see that I've begun to play on all strings. | 
02-11-2013, 02:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Virginia | | | Experimentation is good, but so is respecting and learning the fundamentals. Without points of reference you aren't innovating or being creative at all, just moving fences without regard as to why they may have been put there in the first place. Make time to learn why your one-string technique seems to work in this scenerio and not necessarily in most others. Good luck. | 
02-11-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nihilism Playing on different strings actually effects the tone of the note. For example: Playing D on the 5th fret of the A string will sound sharper than the 10th fret of the E string..
Stop being insecure and use your bass properly. | Sharper? It shouldn't, unless you have an intonation problem.
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02-11-2013, 02:26 PM
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02-11-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe Sharper? It shouldn't, unless you have an intonation problem. | I think he meant that it's a more cutting, high-mid/treble tone than the more rounded bassy tone you get from playing the same note on a thicker string.
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02-11-2013, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobobob I think he meant that it's a more cutting, high-mid/treble tone than the more rounded bassy tone you get from playing the same note on a thicker string. | Then he should have said that ... 
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02-12-2013, 11:30 AM
| | | | To OP, sorry but I couldn't be bothered reading 10 pages about the subject..
And @RustyAxe, I should have said that 8-) | 
02-12-2013, 12:06 PM
| | | | OP, I think people on here have been way too polite and sensitive to you on this, you shouldn't be proud of learning to change strings. It's fairly basic. | 
02-12-2013, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bolophonic How many punk bands have you been in? | None. They said I was too good to join. | 
02-12-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BobaFret None. They said I was too good to join. | There are technical punk bands which can make the best bass players work hard. | 
02-12-2013, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fergie Fulton Limiting your potential.......strange phrase to apply when millions of people never bother to realise there potential and are happy with their limits as it brings the results they want.
So do i assume eveyone is typing on their keyboards with all one finger per key, so as to make the most of the keyboard design and layout and minimise un-nessesary movemnt..... a balanced healthy hand use with the wrists being straight, joints comfortably supported, postue correct so as to limit injury or are they limiting themselves to one or two fingers per hand when they ty......wait....all that can apply to playing a bass.....so if it is that such a big deal to play a bass then it must be to type?...or is it not?...........context is everything.  | Do you really believe all that gobbledygook? You have named a couple of examples of people who are successful using less than the full number of strings on an instrument, or even using an unusual instrument. Heck, I can give you another example -- Mike Silverman, a former bass player who now plays a completely and utterly non-traditional modern unique instrument that I believe has two strings.
But those are all very talented people who can play skillfully on all the stings on their instruments when they are not in their niche. It's intellectually dishonest to use the success of those musicians to justify the continued self-limitation and ignorance of the OP. He is doing himself a disservice, and you are doing him a disservice.
For someone who is supposedly trying to learn how to play the bass better, being "happy with their limits" is not an option. And I don't know who you think the millions of people are who are happy with their limits. Anybody who aspires to get better at anything is by definition not "happy with their limits." People who are getting the results they want using techniques they have already learned are not "happy with their limits." They might be content with where they're at, and that's fine, but it took overcoming their previous limits to get there.
Anybody can do whatever they want with as little proficiency as they please when they're doing it as a hobby. Once they start getting paid, though, there's a higher level of responsibility involved -- if not to one's self, then at least to band members and whoever is paying for the gig. Even punk music sometimes demands more than the OP is able to provide right now.
And your example is bogus. Nobody who is posting here is getting paid to professionally type here. You show me someone who gets paid to type, and I'll show you someone who can type without hunting and pecking and who uses more than two fingers.
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02-12-2013, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lolomgbass4lyfe Everyone,
I pretty much just left because I was acting defensive and didn't want to make things worse for myself. You'll be happy to know that since, I have started using all of my strings and using tabs. I honestly don't even know why it felt so difficult for me to shift strings in the first place, it seems so painfully easy to do now. I plan on learning theory and scales so I'll actually have something to show off. Thanks. | Congrats! Really, for your attitude shift as much as for your progress.
The thing that bothered me the most about your earlier posts is that discovery about how ridiculously easy it is to broaden your horizons and expand your abilities, as you mentioned in this post. With your earlier attitude, you almost missed that discovery. And now you know why people here were trying all sorts of ways to get through to you.
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02-12-2013, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rufus95 OP, I think people on here have been way too polite and sensitive to you on this, you shouldn't be proud of learning to change strings. It's fairly basic. | Well I realize that now. I think the only reason it was hard was because when I started, I didn't know you were supposed to. | 
02-13-2013, 02:50 AM
| | | | You didn't know you were supposed to? What did you think these strings were for? Looks?
OP, may I ask how old are you? | 
02-13-2013, 04:35 AM
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02-14-2013, 02:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Florida | | | Im new here, but i'm not going to read all ten pages, just feel like throwing my input from the bit i did read.
I've only been playing bass for about a year, but have been playing guitar for nearly 9 years, i promise you that if you learn the correct way to play, and practice scales etc etc. You will have so much more fun, just because it's punk rock music doesnt mean its got to be so simple. Remember you are part of the rhythm section after all a simple step up, or step down can really make a song. I do believe i read something along the lines of "being happy with your limitations" or something of that sort, that should never be true. When you were a baby and you didnt want to learn to walk, because crawling was good enough, then where would you be. If you choose to pick up an instrument, then you should learn that instrument inside and out. If you dont progress any, and the rest of your band does progress, fast and consistently then eventually you will be obsolete. Best of luck with your progression!
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02-14-2013, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BobaFret None. They said I was too good to join. | Derpy derp.
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02-14-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nihilism You didn't know you were supposed to? What did you think these strings were for? Looks?
OP, may I ask how old are you? | Errr dude, the OP did say he used all the strings. Just not at the same time e.g. verse on the E, pre-chorus on the A, chorus on the E again etc.
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