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Old 06-19-2010, 09:42 PM
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It's been 3 months and I final found out what genre of music I want to play which is R&B. Are there any R&B artist on this forum that can give me advice on what I have to do from playing scales-chords in order to play this genre of music?
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:07 PM
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Personally, I would hook up with the D'angelo Voodoo album, along with Badu's Mama's Gun, eat sleep and drink it. Stevie Wonder, Lewis Taylor (s.t.) would be other starts. Just listen to it, spend a week with a record, play along with it once a day.

The more time you spend with the vibes you like, the more you'll like the sound coming out of you.

Don't know if that helps. But I tried.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:17 PM
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Listen Listen Listen-to funk drummers, rythm guitar players, listen to old school R/B, find as many Norman Whitfield recordings you can...you will hear a mix af R&B Gospel and even country--mix these in a pot and you get rib sticken groove!-Play drum patterens on the bass learn to move your entire body with the music don't just learn chops...add some vegtable-learn what a R/B meal is all about...see Memphis Soul Stew!

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Old 06-19-2010, 11:27 PM
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im getting into a little rnb also and its all about groove, well bass in genres are but rnb IS GROOVE! you have to feel to music, the vocals, drums, keys, and guitar.
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Old 06-19-2010, 11:30 PM
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Marvin Isley is good with the Isley Brothers also some of James Jamerson's later stuff some newer rnb artist I like are like Lauren Hill and what not
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Play with a metronome. Rock solid timing is important.
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some other great artist with bass would be-maxwell, eryka badu, music soulchild, van hunt, dwele, motown stuff, and there are others, but thats all i have right now.
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Play with a metronome. Rock solid timing is important.
You also need to learn playing before the beat and after the beat its veru subtle but that's what adds flavour to the bass line also learn when NOT to play or whent to ghost or mute a note...See Rocco Prestia!

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Old 06-20-2010, 01:05 AM
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I think R&B and Motown are also minimalist music.

I say this because of the DVD i have called "Under The Shadow Of Motown".

If the movie doesn't make you get man-tears and perhaps have your throat get a little tight, then you haven't been playing attention.

What you'll see in that flick is that there is a 'little bit here and a little bit there' in the music and it all forms a song.

The keyboards are just hitting a couple of chords or even a pair of notes and they rest for a couple of measures and then they play something else again.

The horns add a little glare to help light the way and the singers are just filling space answering the statement with a refrain behind the main singer or 'calling-back'.

In the meantime, the drums are kicking and the bass is just sitting in the stew, holding the rhythm and the promise of the next chord to the listeners.

I find that in Motown especially, the bass has a way of helping the audience appreciate the music by resolving the last chord with some false half-steps or ghosts and hinting where the next chord is gonna go by the guitar or horns.

It's all about key or chord transitions and making the pieces fit, as I see it - for the bass player. Whether he can hit that note just close enough to- and yet a little too soon to create this synergy is all a matter of timing and being on your game the whole time.

That's where the Motown feel is. Timing!

Right now my main attention- although NOT Motown, but instead San Francisco Funk and Fuzz - is on Sly & The Family Stone. The bass lines in their music will make you stop and take notice. They were seriously 'way ahead of the game.

Just listen to the simple and at the very same time complicated bass line in "If You Want Me To Stay" - f'rinstance.

For maximum learning and listening to the bass lines, I added a really big sub woofer to my computer when I have all my MP3s saved - over 14,000 at this time.

I can not only hear the bass lines, I actually feel them so I can get double reinforcement for learning them.
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