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Old 11-18-2004, 03:19 PM
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Question Little part of RHCP's "Around The World"

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Does anyone know what the hell Flea plays a little while after the second chorus of Around The World at approximately 2:14 (the little run). I've got tabs for this, but I just can't get that sound. What does he do (technique-wise)?
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i think its just a box pattern, starting on the g (12th fret) pulling off, bending the C (10th fret, 3rd string)
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i think its just a box pattern, starting on the g (12th fret) pulling off, bending the C (10th fret, 3rd string)
But I'm sure I can hear more notes than that. There's about 6 of them.
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Old 11-19-2004, 08:49 AM
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I play this as a triplet
using three fingers on
my right hand.
................................................../******\
G:----10-12------9-10---10-12-----12-12-10--------|
D:--------------------------------------------12-10~|
A:---------------------------------------------------|
E:--0--------1-3-------0-------1-3------------------|

I suppose it could be done with a pick..
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Nah, I listened to it, and it's just a triplet followed by a long note with a little trill at the beginning.

(note: actually in the song they're sixteenth notes the way he plays it, but I like playing it as a triplet)

G:-----10----12------------9---10---
D:-----------------------------------
A:-----------------------------------
E:-3---------------2---3-------------

G:-----10----12---------12-10-----------
D:-----------------------------12-10~---
A:---------------------------------------
E:-3-------------------------------------

For the triplet thing, this is the fingering I use:

------M-I---I--M-----
G:---12-10-----------
D:----------12-10~---
A:--------------------
E:--------------------

Notice the two index finger notes in the middle there. That's called a rake. That way I can play the riff very fast, and using left hand technique, I can make the notes super staccato just like Flea does.

Of course, he has one of those super growly basses in the song, which is one area in which I'm lacking...
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I always thought he played it like this:

Code:
G:-----10----12-----X-X-12-10-----------
D:-----------------------------12-10~---
A:--------------------------------------
E:-3------------------------------------
By the way, isn't the note choice in the verses actually like this?

Code:
G:-----10----12------------9---10----
D:-----------------------------------
A:-----------------------------------
E:-3---------------0---1-------------
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's like this (I also play what you play on the G string, on the D):

Code:
G|------------------------|
D|---15-17------14-15----|
A|------------------------|
E|-3--------1-0-----------|
Listen carefully, the F comes first, then the E. It's tough to tell because the notes are so staccato, but I'm pretty sure that's right.

Anyway, as for my problem, Bassline_Delux was right.
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watching the video on this one is fun, but they don't show the way he does that lick very well.
but I'm fairly positive the E comes before the F. I'm not at my own computer where I can watch the video again, but if I recall correctly he goes up the neck when he's playing those lower notes.
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I'll have a look on the DVD...
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lean musical notes, music isnt numbers its 7 notes in the alphabet A B C D E F G Learn some theory so that you know what the other notes are and how to apply it instead of learning tabs.

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For what it's worth, tucker, music (western music, that is) is twelve notes, not seven. Did you forget about sharps and flats?
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Tucker, what the hell does your post have to do with my question?
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be curious to see what tucker wrote to make the mods pissed

and I'm assuming tucker's ranting at our flagrant use of tabs instead of saying the specific notes
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This is a situation where TAB is the better method because the original question was how to play the part. TAB shows you exactly where to place fingers on the fretboard. How many places on the neck can you play any one particular note?

My goodness!!!!!! There's a place for the TAB versus standard notation argument and this thread is NOT it! Besides, if Tucker actually read all the posts, he would have noticed where actual note names were mentioned ("no the E is before the F") instead of just seeing the TAB and getting himself edited!
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well there's always someone with a bone to pick that feels they must express themselves at every given opportunity
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well i dont feel like explaining myself but heres my apology. Oh yeah i did read all the post and i am very aware that their are twleve notes. notice how i said that were used from the alphabet. i dont think Bb and F# are in the alphabet. but go ahead with you tablature talk. your just limiting yourself if you keep up with it. and theory has everything to do with it.
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This is a situation where TAB is the better method because the original question was how to play the part. TAB shows you exactly where to place fingers on the fretboard. How many places on the neck can you play any one particular note?

My goodness!!!!!! There's a place for the TAB versus standard notation argument and this thread is NOT it! Besides, if Tucker actually read all the posts, he would have noticed where actual note names were mentioned ("no the E is before the F") instead of just seeing the TAB and getting himself edited!
Umm. Dude, I don't see what the big deal is. If you are a bassist, tabs should be easy, as well as knowing the names of the notes or (hopefully) reading sheet music.

There are advantages and disadvantages to these, for example most tabs (unless they're the good ones with marks for rhythm) do not capture rhythm. On the other hand, tabs show where your fingers go and more importantly are much easier to post on a forum than sheet music.

An accomplished bassist should be able to deal with tabs or sheet music well.

To answer the original question, the technique Flea uses is just standard index/middle finger cycling. See my earlier post with the tab for the fingering used for those fast notes.

Also, yes indeed, it is a E and F in those low stacatto notes. I listened to it again carefully, and I was wrong in my transcription. I'll edit it so I don't mislead anyone.
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Umm. Dude, I don't see what the big deal is. If you are a bassist, tabs should be easy, as well as knowing the names of the notes or (hopefully) reading sheet music.

There are advantages and disadvantages to these, for example most tabs (unless they're the good ones with marks for rhythm) do not capture rhythm. On the other hand, tabs show where your fingers go and more importantly are much easier to post on a forum than sheet music.

An accomplished bassist should be able to deal with tabs or sheet music well.

To answer the original question, the technique Flea uses is just standard index/middle finger cycling. See my earlier post with the tab for the fingering used for those fast notes.

Also, yes indeed, it is a E and F in those low stacatto notes. I listened to it again carefully, and I was wrong in my transcription. I'll edit it so I don't mislead anyone.
Geoff, maybe I didn't express myself well, but I agree completely with what you are saying. My point was that both TAB and standard notation are important tools to a bassist, for the reasons that you stated.

As bassists, we should be able to play off whatever is presented to us, be it TAB, standard notation, Nashville chart, fake book,...even "Hey dude, put your finger there and then there!"
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Dear KPJ,
Have you ever seen a jazz bass player read tablature while playing a gig. Or be told to put his finger there or here. well maybe you need to be told. But your right everyone needs tabs. Have you heard of the saying teach a man how to fish and you can feed him for the rest of his life. Well thats how standard notation is. if you dont get it than you might be able to find tabs on the computer to figure it out.
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