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Old 05-26-2003, 04:56 PM
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Metal Bass Arpeggios and Scales

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For all you metal bass players. What kind of scales do you guys like to incorporate and fool around with to keep everything sounding fresh. Not just your basic classic metal stuff. But more of the eastern sounding scales/arpeggios as well as some jazz scales etc. that are used alot more often now in bands like tool, spiral archetiect, dream theater, etc ???

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Old 05-26-2003, 05:36 PM
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Check out Allan Holdsworth, his music have inspired plenty of bands in the tech metal section like Cynic, Martyr, Aghora and so forth.

Santiago from Aghora wrote abit some arpeggio stuff : http://dsrmusic.com/metaltab/text/gu...sdoblesL1.html

But get Allan Holdsworth instructional video, it recomends 10 scales :


C major
5/2
Gtr I
|-1---3---5---7-8---10--12-13----15----17----19-20--|
|-1---3---5-6---8---10--12-13----15----17-18----20--|
|---2---4-5---7---9-10--12----14----16-17----19-----|
|---2-3---5---7---9-10--12----14-15----17----19-----|
|---2-3---5---7-8---10--12----14-15----17----19-20--|
|-1---3---5---7-8---10--12-13----15----17----19-20--|


D minor + 7 (D Melodic)
Gtr I
|-1---3---5---7---9-10----12-13----15----17----19----|
|---2-3---5-6---8---10----12----14-15----17-18----20-|
|---2---4---6-7---9-10----12----14----16----18-19----|
|---2-3---5---7---9----11-12----14-15----17----19----|
|---2---4-5---7-8---10----12----14----16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3---5---7---9-10----12-13----15----17----19----|


A minor+7-6(A Harmonic)
|-1-----4-5---7-8---10----12-13-------16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3---5-6-----9-10----12-13----15----17-18-------|
|-1-2---4-5---7---9-10-------13-14----16-17----19----|
|---2-3-----6-7---9-10----12----14-15-------18-19----|
|---2-3---5---7-8------11-12----14-15----17----19-20-|
|-1-----4-5---7-8---10----12-13-------16-17----19-20-|


A minor +7 +4
|---2---4-5---7-8------11-12----14----16-17----19-20-|
|-1-----4-5---7---9-10----12-13-------16-17----19----|
|-1-2---4-5-----8-9----11----13-14----16-17-------20-|
|-1-2---4---6-7---9-10-------13-14----16----18-19----|
|---2-3-----6-7---9----11-12----14-15-------18-19----|
|---2---4-5---7-8------11-12----14----16-17----19-20-|


A flat diminished
|-1---3-4---6-7---9-10----12-13----15-16----18-19----|
|---2-3---5-6---8-9----11-12----14-15----17-18----20-|
|-1---3-4---6-7---9-10----12-13----15-16----18-19----|
|---2-3---5-6---8-9----11-12----14-15----17-18----20-|
|-1-2---4-5---7-8---10-11----13-14----16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3-4---6-7---9-10----12-13----15-16----18-19----|


6
|-1-2-3---5-6---8---10-11----13-14-15----17-18----20-|
|-1---3-4---6-7-8---10-11----13----15-16----18-19-20-|
|---2-3---5---7-8---10-11-12----14-15----17----19-20-|
|-1---3-4-5---7-8---10----12-13----15-16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3---5-6---8-9-10----12-13----15----17-18----20-|
|-1-2-3---5-6---8---10-11----13-14-15----17-18----20-|


7
|-1---3---5-6-7-8---10----12-13----15----17-18-19-20-|
|-1---3---5-6---8---10-11-12-13----15----17-18----20-|
|---2-3-4-5---7---9-10----12----14-15-16-17----19----|
|---2-3---5---7-8-9-10----12----14-15----17----19-20-|
|-1-2-3---5---7-8---10----12-13-14-15----17----19-20-|
|-1---3---5-6-7-8---10----12-13----15----17-18-19-20-|


8
|---2---4-5-6-7---9-10----12----14----16-17-18-19----|
|---2-3---5---7---9-10-11-12----14-15----17----19----|
|-1-2-3-4---6-7---9----11----13-14-15-16----18-19----|
|---2---4---6-7-8-9----11-12----14----16----18-19-20-|
|-1-2---4-5---7---9----11-12-13-14----16-17----19----|
|---2---4-5-6-7---9-10----12----14----16-17-18-19----|


9
|-1-2---4-5---7-8---10----12-13-14----16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3---5-6-7---9-10----12-13----15----17-18-19----|
|-1-2---4-5---7---9-10-11----13-14----16-17----19----|
|---2-3-4---6-7---9-10----12----14-15-16----18-19----|
|---2-3---5---7-8-9----11-12----14-15----17----19-20-|
|-1-2---4-5---7-8---10----12-13-14----16-17----19-20-|


10
|---2-3-4---6-7-8---10-11-12----14-15-16----18-19-20-|
|-1---3-4-5---7-8-9----11-12-13----15-16-17----19-20-|
|-1---3-4-5---7-8-9----11-12-13----15-16-17----19-20-|
|-1-2---4-5-6---8-9-10----12-13-14----16-17-18----20-|
|-1-2-3---5-6-7---9-10-11----13-14-15----17-18-19----|
|---2-3-4---6-7-8---10-11-12----14-15-16----18-19-20-|


Thats the 10 most usable scales in all positions. But get his video, you will learn more from it.
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Old 05-27-2003, 04:34 PM
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As far as metal goes, E, E minor, and A minor are sufficient.

Gotta love that phrygian
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Quote:
Originally posted by Garrett Mireles
As far as metal goes, E, E minor, and A minor are sufficient.

Gotta love that phrygian
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/411/cynic1.html listen and learn.
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Old 05-28-2003, 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Garrett Mireles
As far as metal goes, E, E minor, and A minor are sufficient.


Also, learn some diminished and whole-tone scales.

But, as always, the key is not just to memorize scales, but to understand how the notes in them work.
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