Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Metal slap?

Sign in to disble this ad
Hi, im in a metal band...mkay. So im looking to create a metal sounding slap riff/song/line. I dont want TM Stevens or flea or Claypool, im not looking for funk metal (while they are great players) i dont want any funk in my sound. Completely devoid of funkiness. Its a long story why i want this but if you guys could point me in some direction that would be great.
  #2  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Louisville Ky
Send a message via AIM to cash87
Fieldy from Korn pops up in my head. Um...as far as metal slap players dont really know of many. And any harder rock or numetal like distured had like one song where the bassist did some slap, dont remember which one though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skel View Post
We're all flunking and most of us are stoned...begging Jive1 and maybe Dis to copy off their papers during tests.....and REALLY having fun.
  #3  
Old 05-01-2007, 07:51 PM
gkbass13's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York
Supporting Member
-1 to fieldy.

not a fan of his playing

i think ryan amrinie fom mudvayne is the best example of metal slap out there€(IMO)....check out the cd LD 50....some mazing stuff on there.
__________________
You know the motto.
I stay fluid, even in staccato.
  #4  
Old 05-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Send a message via AIM to McCalister999
Supporting Member
bassist from cryptopsy employs slap technique.
  #5  
Old 05-01-2007, 08:03 PM
bacid's Avatar
Bass Playing Economist
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clearwater, Florida
Supporting Member
+1 on Ryan Martinie. He is the man, very very metal slapping. Dig has some awesome slapping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7LNWX3pU74 (Live with facepaint) Better vocals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoH-sl2xdAw (Live without facepaint) More slapping
__________________
"I wish all guitars were called trebles..." - Billy Sheehan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet Police View Post
That's a lot of tubes. And a lot of money. Two things I know nothing about
Mesa/Boogie 400, 400+ Club #36
  #6  
Old 05-01-2007, 08:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kane, PA
Send a message via ICQ to the_fonz
+1 to Martinie
he's got mad slaps
__________________
The Buddhist Bassist
Acoustic Bass Fetish Club member #10
  #7  
Old 05-01-2007, 08:12 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Trafalgar, Indiana
Send a message via AIM to TFG_low_end
Are you looking for more of a percussion bass/ fill in the blank sound? I would go with paul gray from slipknot. He does a lot of that. And fieldy. also... you may want heavy magnetic pickups for that real plinky metal sound.
__________________
The Flying Graysons!
  #8  
Old 05-01-2007, 08:35 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: WI
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_fonz View Post
+1 to Martinie
+1
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimB52 View Post
I'd pay not to see that. Just thinking about it's giving me a hard off.
Wisconsin Bassists Club #62

Tom Foolery
  #9  
Old 05-01-2007, 09:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Listen to Blackwater Park by opeth(the song) most tasteful slapping in metal
__________________
I play in Ritual Bludgeoning, Vangough, and Justin Lawrence Band Follow me on twitter @jerenmartin, and I will follow you.
  #10  
Old 05-01-2007, 09:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
Tony Choy's playing on Elements by Atheist definitely sounds like he's slapping the strings on occasion.
  #11  
Old 05-01-2007, 09:28 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Auburn, Washington
He's definately slapping on Elements. Awesome album.
  #12  
Old 05-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Louisville Ky
Send a message via AIM to cash87
Oh never said i like Fieldy it was just the first name that popped up in my head but I dont listen to much metal so I dont know of many
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skel View Post
We're all flunking and most of us are stoned...begging Jive1 and maybe Dis to copy off their papers during tests.....and REALLY having fun.
  #13  
Old 05-02-2007, 08:30 AM
Fli Fli is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Birmingham, AL
Quote:
Originally Posted by McCalister999 View Post
bassist from cryptopsy employs slap technique.
Exactly what I was thinking of. A few songs on None So Vile came to mind. The most 'metal' slap/pop I've ever heard.
  #14  
Old 05-02-2007, 09:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Send a message via MSN to Daniel Trolie
Check out Mr. Bungle - My ass is on fire

Note on Claypool: He isn't always funky when using His slap technique.


Good Luck
__________________
Norwegian Bassplayer #3
  #15  
Old 05-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Trolie View Post
Note on Claypool: He isn't always funky when using His slap technique.

that's true,
Anti-pop is probably a good album to mention for metal slapping
  #16  
Old 05-02-2007, 04:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kane, PA
Send a message via ICQ to the_fonz
Quote:
Originally Posted by TFG_low_end View Post
Are you looking for more of a percussion bass/ fill in the blank sound? I would go with paul gray from slipknot. He does a lot of that.
i haven't heard Paul do any slap on an album since MFKR. is that what you were talking about? cus the slapping on that album is far from what was being asked for
__________________
The Buddhist Bassist
Acoustic Bass Fetish Club member #10
  #17  
Old 05-02-2007, 05:10 PM
BEADG
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stockton, Cali
I would check out Disturbed's first album "The Sickness" with their orginal Bass player Fuzz. On the tracks "Voices" and "The Game" are a couple examples of non funky metal bass slapping. On Believe he does some harmonic tapping as well. To bad their new guy plays with a pick, and completely ignores this when he plays the older tunes.
__________________
I consider myself to be an acquired taste!!
  #18  
Old 05-02-2007, 06:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Charleston, SC
Send a message via ICQ to Bloodfist Send a message via Yahoo to Bloodfist
I play metal as well, and do some slap bass in some songs. I use it to make the bass cut through the mix and give it that punch that neither a pick or finger style can achieve. This is basically the way I approach it. On a new original song, I write my bass line as if I normally would. After listening to it a couple of times, I can determine what kind of tone works best for the song. Usually the part I slap on is during a part that is real heavy on the drums and toms. I listen to the beat, and try and match each drum beat with a note. On the kick drum, I use the root notes and mutes, and on the toms I start adding in the popping. If you sit back and listen to your drummer play, you will hear how the slap should sound since slap bass is more percussive, and played like a drum beat most of the time. Don't be afraid to mix up your styles either. I generally use pick, finger and slap during a show. Each one has it's own strength that outweighs another style, and if used properly, can really set the mood of the song. Oh, and as far as the funk sound goes in metal, try experimenting with it once in awhile. You can really pump up a song just by adding a few measures of funk in the right place, i.e. just before a guitar solo, or during it. I hope this helps you some, good luck finding your new groove.
  #19  
Old 05-03-2007, 01:09 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Auburn Nebraska
Send a message via MSN to Yngwie 4String
Its hard to have a non-funk slap because slap was created by Larry Graham for funk. It is a funk technique, but to answer question I reccomend Rober Trujillo in his Suicidall Tendencies era.
  #20  
Old 05-03-2007, 01:16 AM
Temp Banned (TOS Violation)

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
Supporting Member
Ya, Rob Trujillo by far. His stuff with Infectious Grooves was textbook stuff for rocking out with slap. Suicidal Tendencies was heavier, though.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:18 AM.




Copyright ©2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All right reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.