Metal slap? - Page 3

niels125 · #41 09-08-2011, 08:58 AM

fractiouslowend · #42 09-09-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayers

No ... hum let's try with a musical exemple :

My firend metal demo by mayers on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

It's my frien who recorded all the stuff ... and yeah there is a note at the end of each riff that is pop you can clearly hear it and I think it is a very good way to use slap ( no matter the music style )

im still not getting what you're trying to say.
you're putting a pop on a note. that's slap / pop.
i agree that slapping can work in any genre, just as any musical technique can. i just don't get what point you were trying to make.

Mayers · #43 09-09-2011, 08:17 AM

Hum ... instead of playing an entire chorus or whatever in slap, juste slap one note in your riff so it makes that note cutting through the mix and it can help to make something that the listener can't expect to hear and so it makes your music more interesting.

**garmenteros** · #44 09-09-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gkbass13

-1 to fieldy.

not a fan of his playing

i think ryan amrinie fom mudvayne is the best example of metal slap out there€(IMO)....check out the cd LD 50....some mazing stuff on there.

+1 the best example I could think of as well. I also like his work on The End of All Things to Come.

tdub0199 · #45 09-09-2011, 08:31 AM

+1 to Fieldy (even tho I'm not a big Fan to his style or lack of tone but it worked for Korn IMO)
+1 to Ryan Martinie of Mudvayne

rockstarbassist · #46 09-09-2011, 08:40 AM

Ryan is still a beast, I just wish they'd write some decent songs again! LD50 was ridiculously good but radio play pressures got to them unfortunately. I still pop in that record constantly and am blown away by the overall awesomeness.

TomA1234 · #47 09-10-2011, 06:39 AM

My favorite metal bassists who slap are Ryan Martinie and Dirk Lance (earlier incubus).

I really like the slap Ryan does on "Under my skin" during the choruses and bridge.

Dirk's stuff tends to be more funk based but I would say it is still worth a listen to to see if it gives you any ideas.

naruki · #48 09-19-2011, 03:18 PM

Check out Fullmetal Gunslinger by ikd-sj.

fractiouslowend · #49 09-21-2011, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayers

Hum ... instead of playing an entire chorus or whatever in slap, juste slap one note in your riff so it makes that note cutting through the mix and it can help to make something that the listener can't expect to hear and so it makes your music more interesting.

i didn't realise slapping meant that every single note had to be a slap or a pop.....

sammyp · #50 09-22-2011, 08:05 PM

the Mudvayne guy definately has it going on....

sammyp · #51 09-22-2011, 08:08 PM

the Mudvayne guy definately has it going on....

i've transrcibed some of that for guitar students but no bass yet ...it's not for the faint of heart!

Klockwerk · #52 09-28-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by metalstorm

Personally, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think slap belongs in metal and you only see it amateur bands. Have any of you recorded slap in a metal context? I would be curious to hear.

A lot of examples have been said in this thread.
I think some of them who haven't been given enough credit are Evan Brewer (in my humble opinion, one of the best bassists of his generation in melding technique and harmonic content) and Amos Williams, Tesseract's bassist. This Amos Williams has, I believed, the strongest and most slap-tastic tone of all bassists mentioned in this thread, and uses it smartly.

Yes, a lot of amateur bassists will fall back on slapping, but it doesn't necessarily make it exclusively an amateur technique, and can be quite tasty.

Mayers · #53 09-28-2011, 10:39 AM

I found a great exemple of what I talked about ...

The Dark Eternal Night - Dream Theater

John Myung does a pop on a tritone you can hear it very clearly in the intro. This is how I'll use it, you can put accent on something where no one would expect it and make it more interesting than a generic slap line like everybody do.

FreakyFruit · #54 09-28-2011, 05:33 PM

Whoever said Mudvayne, +1.

Byron92 · #55 09-29-2011, 12:37 AM

Ryan Martinie from Mudvayne can play bass like it's no one's business!

turbo chicken · #56 09-29-2011, 03:01 PM

Ryan
Fieldy... doods got rythm no denying thatand after watching some of his instructional videos... i have a new respect for him as a player... he makes it look too easy.

Trijillo ... infectious grooves for sure... give it a listen. He can slap the crap out of a bass.

Take a lil something from these doods ... and you'll be set.

**driftingupward** · #57 10-27-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by metalstorm

When I was younger, I thought it would be great to add slap to a metal song. As I grew up and matured musically I realized that I wasn't doing it to serve the song but more to stroke my own ego. Personally, and this is just my opinion, but I don't think slap belongs in metal and you only see it amateur bands. Have any of you recorded slap in a metal context? I would be curious to hear.

TS: if you know what sound you are looking for why do you need to find other people doing it? Why not just create it?

I don't really understand the first part of this. How can it be stroking your ego if it's something you hear when you're first working on a song. I respect your point of view and opinion but if slapping is something that is part of your style or is something you explore on your way to realizing your style then I don't see the problem with it.

Example: I'm getting ready to move and have already found a new band where I'm going. They have sent me a few tunes to work on and while I was listening to one of the tunes for the first time I kept hearing parts where I could add some pops, mostly at the end of phrases, on double stops on the root and fifth higher up pitch wise that would be a good fit with the tune. Now no, that's not really my style, but it's a good exercise for getting that sort of thing under my belt and who knows, maybe I'll incorporate that into my style at some point.

I guess my point is, how is that stroking my ego to add something that fits the song?

I also think that if slapping was something you loved or was part of you're style then how is that amateurish? I think we can find a way to incorporate any style or technique into any other style if we think it through and develop it in a way that speaks to us. If not then all genres would pretty much sound the same and there wouldn't be any kind of innovation.

I think something or someone along the way told you to have that association of amateur with slap in metal and I wonder what you would sound like if you had continued working with it instead of going another direction.

I don't mean to berate you and I totally respect your opinion, I'm just trying to figure out how you got to that line of thinking.

+1 on Ryan of Mudvayne

Sorry to hijack the thread, and I haven't read the whole thread so I apologize if someone already addressed this.