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02-10-2006, 11:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kent UK | | | Metronome vs Drum machine
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Hi all.
Metronome's are a good thing, but that click drives me mad!! I think a drum machine would be far better.
Is there a drum machine that you can lay down some chords on??
Now that would be very cool!!!
Thanks.
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02-10-2006, 11:34 AM
| | | | i think a metronome is good for working on timing and speed. However, if you want someting more creative, go for a drum machine. | 
02-10-2006, 03:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | | I have a Digitech BNX 3 which is a bass multiprocessor/amp simulator/drum machine/8 track recorder. I use this to work on my timing, and the drum machine has several standard settings. Only downfall is that you can't set up your own drum patterns. When I want to do something a bit more complex, I go to the metronome setting and do it that way. | 
02-11-2006, 03:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 97465 | | | Drum machines = way more fun! Gotta be progammable. I use an old TR505.
If a metronome is all I have then I hear the clicks as 2 & 4 if I'm thinkin' 4/4 time.
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02-12-2006, 09:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan, USA | | | Due to the fact that drum machines can function as a metronome, via programming a click track, and more, I prefer drum machines.
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02-12-2006, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Israel | | Drum machine, of course! easiest way = take Guitar Pro, make some drum pattern, loop it, and here you go!  | 
02-12-2006, 06:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | | The advantage of a metronome is that a simple click gives you nowhere to hide poor time, while a drum machine can be more forgiving. Of course, most drum machines probably have a click sound built in. I recommend spending time with that.
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02-12-2006, 10:15 PM
| | Notes we play > Gear we play them on | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wisconsin | | | Lemur makes a good point. Practicing is about working on things you aren't good at, and a metronome will expose your timing issues. If you ever want to weep like a little girl, just record yourself playing with a metronome - works for me every time.
Playing with a drum machine is definitely more fun, and there's no reason why you can't do both during a practice session. Still, for improving time I would say go with the 'nome. | 
02-12-2006, 10:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN | | | Have you considered downloading some drum loops and using those?? I find it a pretty good tool for timing and noodling around with. I find a cool loop, toss it into Sound Forge, slow it down or speed it up as needed and just set it to repeat. | 
02-13-2006, 12:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Newcastle - Australia | | | practise with a drummer.....to me theres no substitue for the real thing..plus its lots more fun....and you learn to interact with the drummer...jam with as many people as possible, but if that aint possible, drum machine it and keep it simple to start with, then start playin with swing feels
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02-24-2006, 07:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Durham NC | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by SuperDuck Lemur makes a good point. Practicing is about working on things you aren't good at, and a metronome will expose your timing issues. If you ever want to weep like a little girl, just record yourself playing with a metronome - works for me every time.
Playing with a drum machine is definitely more fun, and there's no reason why you can't do both during a practice session. Still, for improving time I would say go with the 'nome. | +1
The metronome leaves you with nowhere to hide. Sadly, this is what you want.
Drum machine for the artist in you, metronome for when you want bare bones, break it down practice. | 
02-25-2006, 04:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando | | | The Boss JamStation will let you lay down chords and even change the style in which they are played. It is a perfect practive tool.
That said... I prefer a drum machine over a metronome for regular practice, but if you can get to where you can groove to only a click you are making good progress. | 
03-01-2006, 08:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lebanon, PA | | | The metronome with the swinging bar is best. You get a visual que to help you see when the beat is coming up. Really good for practicing on playing behind or before the beat. A flashing light just does not do the job. | 
03-01-2006, 12:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | | Actual mechanical metronomes are prone to drifting tempos though. Also, they may not be adjustable in small enough increments.
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03-01-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lemur821 Actual mechanical metronomes are prone to drifting tempos though. Also, they may not be adjustable in small enough increments. | Sounds perfect! My drummer is prone to drifting and inaccurate tempos also!  | 
03-01-2006, 04:12 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | I much prefer to play along with a drum machine, like say, I'll get my bass out and my brother will get his guitar, we'll decide on a rhythm and just let the magic happen, as I fidn that ahving a beat like that really aids improvisation.
With a metronome, It's really just for me to practive with.
I do use both however, and feel that neither is anything less than invaluable. | 
03-03-2006, 02:18 PM
| | | | I have Alesis SR-16 drum machine. I love it a lot. I don't like to practice with built-in rhythms or something like that, instead of that I made different "metronome-like" patterns (for example: 4/4, 8/8, 16/16, 12/8 etc. with kick on 1st beat, rim-shot on 2-3-4 and hi-hat playing 8's, 16's and so on). I also programmed a swing exercise (hi-hat on 2&4), son/rumba clave (2:3, 3:2). It works.
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03-10-2006, 10:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St. Louis // St. Charles, MO | | | Like Low_blow, I too have an Alesis SR-16 - unlike LB, I love randomly punching up a pre-set and jamming along with it. If I am practicing scales or other exercises, having the drum machine toss a reggae rhythm or a syncopated complex time rhythm at you makes those exercises go to the next level.
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03-10-2006, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris2112 I much prefer to play along with a drum machine, like say, I'll get my bass out and my brother will get his guitar, we'll decide on a rhythm and just let the magic happen, as I fidn that ahving a beat like that really aids improvisation.
With a metronome, It's really just for me to practive with.
I do use both however, and feel that neither is anything less than invaluable. | hijack - you are not the stu hamm man 
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