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lowendfriend 01-08-2013 07:37 PM

Moving from 5 string to 4 string
 
Any good advice on how to get through B-string withdrawal?

I decided to try a) a Fender Jazz Bass and b) some blues gigs and jams and a 4 string just seems to fit better than 5.

However, I learned on a 5 string and now am in shock at the absence of the B. Can anyone share their experience on such a move? Key of E seems like an enormous p-i-t-a and it used to be my mainstay. What's the best way to get on with the adjustment? Exercises of sorts?

:bassist:with 1 less string!

gmahoog 01-08-2013 09:34 PM

Think of the strings and notes from the G string up to the E string instead of the E string down to the G string.

I actually started weening myself from the 5 string by avoiding playing the B string when I could. You might try that for awhile. Just play the notes B through Eb on the B string and everything else on the other strings.

My biggest struggle was playing songs I already played on the 5 string. It really screwed with my head for awhile.

I always thought I'd be a 5 stringer forever until I got my 2012 Fender American Standard Jazz. My favorite bass of all time.

Good luck in the transition.

Vintage Guy 01-08-2013 09:41 PM

I alternate back and forth at gigs between the 5 or 4. I'm trying to go back to a 4 string for a lot of the songs we do. Try to use the 5'er just for certain songs. I've been starting to transpose some of the 5 string songs back to the 4 string. Just built a killer 4 string "P" bass with a Jazz neck that plays like a dream. All the guys in the band say it sounds better than anything I've used before.

FretlessMainly 01-08-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowendfriend (Post 13690046)
Key of E seems like an enormous p-i-t-a and it used to be my mainstay.

Interesting. I played 4-bangers for 25 years before getting a 6-er, and E/Eminor went from convenient keys to PITAs. gmahoog has a good suggestion, but I always look at bass as buliding from the bottom up, so that wouldn't work for me.

Just play it for a while; you'll adapt.

Asher S 01-21-2013 07:03 AM

It's all personal preference, but here's my 2 cents.

I went from 5 back to 4 a couple of years ago with no regrets; on the contrary. I have no specific exercises to recommend, only some thoughts:
  • Limitations and constraints stimulate creativity. I think Jaco said something similar. Personally I found the added string a bit of a distraction, and I used it less and less.
  • It's a myth that there are some tunes that can't be played without a low B. The 4-string still has ~3 octaves-worth of the same 12 tones. I play tunes in Eb, no problem.
  • When it comes to supporting my groups, rhythm and groove trump the added 2.5 tone range, so if you groove, you can do so on a 1-string bass...
  • The lower frequencies need to be amplified properly, regardless of the quality of your bass, it's scale, or the pickups. If you don't have a good amp set up, your lower frequencies will likely lack clarity.

All that said, if you really miss the low B and enjoy playing that much more on a 5+ string bass, then don't give it up. Do whatever makes you happy, which is what will make you practice more and therefore sound better and better.


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