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07-30-2009, 11:41 PM
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I want to learn how to solo on a song....what books can you recommend?? | 
07-30-2009, 11:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | I've always enjoyed The Origins of Consciousness and the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, read that back to back with Snowcrash and you get a pretty interesting world view...
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07-30-2009, 11:48 PM
| | Registered User Keeping the Groove staying out of Treble | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Delhi,India | | | well first of all ear training is extremely essential.at the same time you need to listen actively to alot of solos of your favorite bass players.and well since your name is Jaco Pastorius,it shouldnt be a problem for you to look for inspiration.geta hold of one of the books in which jacos solos have been transcribed.read em,lear em and analyze em. | 
07-31-2009, 08:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boston, MA | | | If you want to play jazz, get a teacher. There's no getting around it. No book is going to help you as much as a seasoned jazz player can.
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07-31-2009, 09:22 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | | Go look up the thread in "General Instruction" that specifically asks about soling. It's full of good solid answers and I don't feel like typing my response again.
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07-31-2009, 10:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Island, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudreax If you want to play jazz, get a teacher. There's no getting around it. No book is going to help you as much as a seasoned jazz player can. | +10000000000000000000000000000000000000 | 
07-31-2009, 10:41 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central Illinois, USA | | Sorry, the other thread isn't in GI, it's right here in Technique... Really Suck at Playing Solos
Bottom line is you gotta have musical ideas before you worry about being able to execute them. Soloing is about telling a story, not wiggling your fingers and filling space.
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07-31-2009, 12:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: OOOOSA! | | | One of Jaco's mantras: "If you can sing it, you can play it".
So, yes, as JTE wrote, you've got to have musical ideas first.
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07-31-2009, 12:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | But what about book recommendations? I know Chris Fitzgerald likes Milan Kundera...
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07-31-2009, 02:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle | | my favorite source for farmiliarizing yourself with jazz knowledge is Marc Sabatella's Jazz Improvisation Primer
It covers harmony, scales, history, and reccomended listening. Free online, cheap in print. | 
07-31-2009, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua But what about book recommendations? I know Chris Fitzgerald likes Milan Kundera... | Take a look at Marc Johnson's book "Concepts for Bass Soloing". It's a good resource for moving from scales to solos: http://www.shermusic.com/cncpbass.htm
FYI- this guy still refers to Marc's book for exercises & ideas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psHRGHWZH1w
(solo starts about 45 seconds in)
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07-31-2009, 09:34 PM
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08-02-2009, 06:09 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deep East Texas Piney Woods | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JTE Soloing is about telling a story, not wiggling your fingers and filling space. | John - Going to use that one, I'll give you credit for awhile, however, I know in a month or so I will think it was one of my original thoughts.
Jazzbooks.com has always been a friend. http://aebersold.com/Merchant2/merch...ry_Code=BASBOO
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08-02-2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MalcolmAmos | Go ahead! I think I stole it and paraphrased it from Jerry Jemmott's interview with that Patorious guy.
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