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04-19-2007, 05:37 PM
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I find this very hard, especially if the song requires you hit them one after another very quickly. This can get very frustrating fretting like this with one finger, and instead of repeatedly alternating strings with the same finger I can either lay one finger across both strings, or use an adjacent finger to fret the different string. But in the former case, I can hardly ever get the notes to sound equally-well fretted (know what I mean by that?) and it is hard to mute one of the two strings when needed. The latter method is also difficult because it feels unnatural and doesn't seem to be a reliable technique.
Got some advice for me to make this easier? Thanks! | 
04-19-2007, 06:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario | | | Practice barre chording, that is, using one finger to depress all the strings equally. It's mainly just a finger strength thing, but if you practice it enough you'll be able to do it with any finger, although the pinky is alot less reliable for this. Also check that your action is lowered a bit, as high action (string height) can make this alot harder. Hope this helps. And if one string needs to be muted, you eventually get to the point where you can intuitively apply less or more pressure to the required strings as needed.
Last edited by fettbass : 04-19-2007 at 06:36 PM.
Reason: added a bit more (hopefully helpful) advice
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04-19-2007, 07:19 PM
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04-19-2007, 07:21 PM
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Practice chords, like a guitarist.
barre chords, inparticular
Rob | 
04-19-2007, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson +1 | Thanks for all your help. You really provided some deep insight and valuable opinions that greatly shaped my ever-molding sense of musical embellishment. Years from now I will thank Brad Johnson for everything that has every happened to me, bar none. | 
04-19-2007, 08:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gladstone, QLD, Australia | | | both barring, and using adjacent fingers is valid, and it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish in the context of the notes before, and the notes after...
I do a bit of both...
I tend to use different fingers more towards the nut where more pressure is required. and I tend to bar more towards the bridge, where less pressure is required and I'm more likely to be playing triads, as opposed to just double stops. | 
04-20-2007, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoSoIV Thanks for all your help. You really provided some deep insight and valuable opinions that greatly shaped my ever-molding sense of musical embellishment. Years from now I will thank Brad Johnson for everything that has every happened to me, bar none. | If you want to be an ass about it, fine. I'm AGREEING with what he (Fettbass) suggested. Would you like me to re-type it?
If I DIDN'T AGREE with him I would've said so. Bottom line, I already know how to do this and you don't... and I've just filled you in on something else you probably already knew.
While you're at it you might want to learn how the interweb works.  | 
04-20-2007, 07:36 AM
| | | Brad...you're still my hero! 
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04-20-2007, 08:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Massachusetts | | | Sorry Brad I had no idea that typing +1 was a way of saying "I agree with the above poster", comes off more as "Hey look I'm adding to my post count". My mistake I suppose. | 
04-20-2007, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ZoSoIV Sorry Brad I had no idea that typing +1 was a way of saying "I agree with the above poster", comes off more as "Hey look I'm adding to my post count". My mistake I suppose. | No problem  . Give that advice a try... it won't happen overnight but it'll happen. It's not only good for playing multiple notes in the same fret position, it can be really handy for patterns that include multiple notes in the same position. I can expand on that if you don't understand.
Trust me, I don't need to add to my post count  | 
04-20-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JimK Brad...you're still my hero!  | Me, the most hated man on TB (according to recent polls)?
Thanks, Jim.  | 
04-20-2007, 12:33 PM
| | | I know I haven't hangin' around as much...how did you ever wrestle that 'honor' away from Bruce?! 
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04-20-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoSoIV Sorry Brad I had no idea that typing +1 was a way of saying "I agree with the above poster", comes off more as "Hey look I'm adding to my post count". My mistake I suppose. | Nah, that would be
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04-20-2007, 02:11 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torrance, CA | | | If you're playing the same fret on multiple strings you can either barre or sometimes I like to use the A major chord shape.
Personally I don't care for the whole +1 thing since I see it as just being lazy to write something, anything, even "I agree with him." It's bad form as far as "proper" writing goes. But I don't think it's such big a deal that I'd make a sarcastic post about it. It still gets the point across. | 
04-20-2007, 02:53 PM
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I usually barre and kind of rock back and forth to mute the one I'm not playing. Yes, this is hard at first and takes practice to sound clean.
Toward the nut, it usually ends up being ring-and-pinky or middle-and-ring, one finger on each string. | 
04-20-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JimK I know I haven't hangin' around as much...how did you ever wrestle that 'honor' away from Bruce?!  | I was informed of that recently... and I was crushed.  | 
04-20-2007, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Infernal Affair If you're playing the same fret on multiple strings you can either barre or sometimes I like to use the A major chord shape.
Personally I don't care for the whole +1 thing since I see it as just being lazy to write something, anything, even "I agree with him." It's bad form as far as "proper" writing goes. But I don't think it's such big a deal that I'd make a sarcastic post about it. It still gets the point across. | So you would repeat the sentiment you agreed with? Type it over? I wouldn't.
+1 shows agreement. Heck, YOU even know that. Since most people know that, I don't see where it's lazy. Knowing more than one person thinks the same thing can help show a consensus.
BTW When did proper writing involve the type of immediate back and forth you see here? | 
05-02-2007, 12:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hattiesburg, MS 39401 | | | +1 barring, but it is not the do all say all. You should practice the difficult technique of fretting adjacent notes with one finger without barring. You were complaining that this technique is hard, which is why you should practice it. What i mean is explained by this exercise:
Without changing position or pivoting, use on finger per fret without barring:
-1-2---------------------1-2-
-----2-1-------------2-1-----
---------1-2-----1-2---------
-------------2-1-------------
etc...
You should also practice this exercise with other finger combinations and with string skips, etc. Basically, take the exercise and get to the point that you can play it quickly, accurately, cleaningly, easily, and with any variation that you can think of. This is one of the more difficult ypes of exercise that we have on the EB, but if you can get it moving, you'll be a lot closer to virtuosity.
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Reason: Clarity issues
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05-02-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Johnson +1 shows agreement. Heck, YOU even know that. Since most people know that, I don't see where it's lazy. Knowing more than one person thinks the same thing can help show a consensus.  | It is lazy writing. This is obviously my opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised if any of my former professors agreed with me. I don't see how using two more characters to write "ditto," something that's far more expressive and indicative of the writer's style, is that much harder than using netspeak to write "+1." By stating "+1" and not adding anything else at all it doesn't contribute much to discussion. Why not just have threads where the original poster says something and all the replies are "+1" or "-1" depending on agreement or disagreement? To me, the posts that have been the most helpful were the ones where people have contributed their own experiences and opinions. I don't even mind shorthand terms like "YMMV" or " AFAIK" or "IMHE," even though it took me time to remember what all of them meant and I prefer not to use them myself, because those terms usually include actual writing from the person, not a quote from someone else.
What's the point of emphasizing something I already know and explained in my post as an opinion except just to give an attitude of superiority? I even stated that I respected its usage despite not particularly caring for it. You're a good guy and all, Brad, and I respect your opinions and experience, but there's a reason why some people gave up on the Markbass F1 thread, and it had nothing to do with being wrong or right.
To get back on topic, that's an interesting practice technique, Chad. I definitely want to incorporate that into my practices since I don't barre very often and should. | 
05-02-2007, 04:58 PM
| | | | "Bar none?" "Barre none"
I liked it...I thought it was a joke.
I don't mind the Plus 1 Emphasis. Consensus is what you're looking for when you post a question. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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