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Old 08-04-2007, 06:47 PM
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Our drummer used to play guitar a little bit before he was our drummer. This summer, he picked it back up and started to learn scales and what not. He's actually come up with some new songs that are pretty good, but I'm having problems playing with him because I don't know what notes to play. He tells me what key he is in and what chords he is playing, but all I can really back him up with are the roots of the chords. Our actual guitar player has been playing for nine years and I want to be able to keep up with him when we get back together at the start of our junior year.

Basically, I really need to learn theory. I've been playing for about 3.5 years and it's time for me to just do it. I've tried in the past, but I just didn't stick with it. When we get back together in the fall, I want to be able to go with whatever key my guitarist tells me he is in and not bore everyone by just playing the root notes all the time.

Are there any books or materials that I can buy that will help me? I already know a couple of scale patterns and some chord patterns, but I'd like to be able to expand on that a lot more.

By the way, our band's name is Sons of Crosby. We're a five piece band out of Furman University in Greenville, SC. The band was under a different name with a different guitarist and bassist a year ago (the end of our freshman year), but over the course of a year, we've come up with about seven originals and we've already made a demo CD. Here's our MySpace:

http://myspace.com/sonsofcrosby

Thanks for any advice,

Chris
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The best advice I could give you is to learn your scales. Maybe take some lessons but I can't recall a book or anything but I know they're out there.

Also, try musicdojo.com or a site similar to that. They have some of the greatest teachers and it's alot cheaper than going to music school.
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Learning you're modes will be the best help IMHO.
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learn some basic theory...scales, chords, modes, some basic progressions and the such.
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chris, i started playing bass about a year ago. since i was already a piano player and know a lot of theory, it came fairly quickly to me. nonetheless, i latched on to a few excellent books which really accelerated things for me.

try glenn letsch, "bass for beginners". very clear explanations of scales and theory, etc. (see amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Bass-Beginners...964158-7110365). concentrate on chords as well. you would be surprised how many notes in songs focus around the root, fifth and octave, as well as the notes of the major 7th, dominant 7 and minor 7 chords. if you know these, you will be able to play notes in almost any key that sound decent, even if you don't know the natural minor scale for example.

if you really want to be strong playing in different keys, repeat a certain chord or scale all the way around the circle of fifths. you will become a master of transposition and never be intimidated by playing something in a new key.

there is no fast way to learn this stuff. just a lot of daily repetition. but if you stick to it, it will surely develop. i have a daily routine where i make myself do some theory before i just start playing the songs i like. this is probably a good habit as well.

by the way, there is nothing like a good teacher. get someone who knows jazz, they are generally strongest on theory. i have played all kinds of music, but jazz is the most demanding. maybe you live somewhere near a music school, try to get a student in his / her 3rd or 4th year, much cheaper than a professional and you will still learn a lot.

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Old 08-06-2007, 03:27 PM
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After you learn the basics of theory, buy The Bass Grimoire, it is basically a huge cheat sheet for keys/modes/scales. Also wasup from Greenville.
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http://www.studybass.com/

My bass teacher here in houston developed this, and it's growing all the time. It starts at the basics, and gets quite expansive. He's still working on it often, but it's got a lot already, and I use it often. Let him know what you like, and what you don't... he'll appreciate the feedback for sure.

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My bass teacher here in houston developed this, and it's growing all the time. It starts at the basics, and gets quite expansive. He's still working on it often, but it's got a lot already, and I use it often. Let him know what you like, and what you don't... he'll appreciate the feedback for sure.

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