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Old 08-29-2009, 01:28 PM
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Rush - What You're Doing - having trouble with middle part

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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not. But it seemed like a technique problem more than anything.

I haven't listened to this song in years, and now I have to learn it for a new band I'm in. I'm having trouble with that fast fill in the middle. Is there is an easier way to play it? Or an easier place on the fingerboard to play it? I'm trying to start it out on the high E (9th fret of the G string.) I was working on it last night and today I woke up with my fingers hurting. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:33 PM
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I'm not familiar with the song, but have you tried slowing it down with a metronome? I find that it helps a lot when I'm learning complicated/fast parts of songs. Once you have it nailed perfectly at the slower tempo, increase the tempo by 10 bpm until you can play it perfectly at full speed.
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:36 PM
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not. But it seemed like a technique problem more than anything.

I haven't listened to this song in years, and now I have to learn it for a new band I'm in. I'm having trouble with that fast fill in the middle. Is there is an easier way to play it? Or an easier place on the fingerboard to play it? I'm trying to start it out on the high E (9th fret of the G string.) I was working on it last night and today I woke up with my fingers hurting. Any help would be appreciated.
Thats probably the best way to play it, it's not that hard once you have the right fingering down.

I play it by going ring, middle, index, ring, middle, index, pinky. for the first 7 notes. That's the best way i can explain it, it also depends on what tab you're looking at for the song, that would make things alot easier to understand on my end.
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Old 08-29-2009, 01:45 PM
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"Well, you think that you're right. Tell me something Mister, why'd you have to make us so uptight?"

Starting where you discribed is where you want to be.
Like the above post...Learn it.... try it slow.... Build it up to speed. With the 30 plus years of experience you have, you should nail it in no time!

Rush on!
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:21 PM
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Thats probably the best way to play it, it's not that hard once you have the right fingering down.

I play it by going ring, middle, index, ring, middle, index, pinky. for the first 7 notes. That's the best way i can explain it, it also depends on what tab you're looking at for the song, that would make things alot easier to understand on my end.
I'm not looking at Tabs, I'm learning it by ear. And yeah, I get what you're saying. But there's an extended version of that that they play once or twice that goes all the way down to D, that's the one I'm having trouble with.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:23 PM
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"Well, you think that you're right. Tell me something Mister, why'd you have to make us so uptight?"

Starting where you discribed is where you want to be.
Like the above post...Learn it.... try it slow.... Build it up to speed. With the 30 plus years of experience you have, you should nail it in no time!

Rush on!
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but 30 years ago I could have probably done it easier. My old decrepit hands are having trouble.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:25 PM
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I'm not looking at Tabs, I'm learning it by ear. And yeah, I get what you're saying. But there's an extended version of that that they play once or twice that goes all the way down to D, that's the one I'm having trouble with.
Hmm is it the live versions? All The Worlds A Stage?
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:29 PM
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Hmm is it the live versions? All The Worlds A Stage?
No, the album version.

It's the second half of that run that I'm having trouble with.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:32 PM
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No, the album version.

It's the second half of that run that I'm having trouble with.
Jeez, I cant think of the part haha,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvJRI_Ftm0

2:30 mark?
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:39 PM
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Actually I get that part.

What I'm talking about is the 1:08 point. They do the first part twice, (7 notes) then the whole thing through. It's the last part of that run that I can't get.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:50 PM
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Alright I think I got it now. I start on the 6th fret of D then i play it on the C of the A. It took me the longest time getting my pinky to fret it right haha.
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Old 08-29-2009, 02:55 PM
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Alright I think I got it now. I start on the 6th fret of D then i play it on the C of the A. It took me the longest time getting my pinky to fret it right haha.
Is there any way you could transcribe that to me in notes? The whole run would be great. I'd be eternally grateful.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:33 PM
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Eternally grateful? I could use some of that. Just ship me a NYC Sadowsky and we'll call it even.

Seriously though, I've been playing that run off and on for 27 years since I was 16. You can find more Rush tabs on 911tab or cygnus tab project. Just google away.


s s s q h s E q E s s s e q E s E s e e e q s s s s s s q
||--9-8-7-----------
||*-------9-8-7-5---
||*-----------------
||------------------


s s s s s s q s s s s s s s s s s s s s s e q E s s s e q E s E
9-8-7---------|-9-8-7---7---------------------|---------------|---------
------9-8-7-5-|-------9---9-7-5-7-5---5-------|---------------|---------
----------------|---------------------7---7-5---|-----------5-7-|---------
----------------|-----------------------------7\|-0-3-4-5-7-----|-0-0-3---


s e e e q s s s s s s s s s s s s s s e
-----------||-------------------------------|
------5---*||-5-4-5-6-7-6-7-----------------
--------7\*||---------------7\3-2-3-4-5-4-5/
4-5-7------||-------------------------------|
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I don't know if it helps, but here's how I'd play it:



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Eternally grateful? I could use some of that. Just ship me a NYC Sadowsky and we'll call it even.

Seriously though, I've been playing that run off and on for 27 years since I was 16. You can find more Rush tabs on 911tab or cygnus tab project. Just google away.


s s s q h s E q E s s s e q E s E s e e e q s s s s s s q
||--9-8-7-----------
||*-------9-8-7-5---
||*-----------------
||------------------


s s s s s s q s s s s s s s s s s s s s s e q E s s s e q E s E
9-8-7---------|-9-8-7---7---------------------|---------------|---------
------9-8-7-5-|-------9---9-7-5-7-5---5-------|---------------|---------
----------------|---------------------7---7-5---|-----------5-7-|---------
----------------|-----------------------------7\|-0-3-4-5-7-----|-0-0-3---


s e e e q s s s s s s s s s s s s s s e
-----------||-------------------------------|
------5---*||-5-4-5-6-7-6-7-----------------
--------7\*||---------------7\3-2-3-4-5-4-5/
4-5-7------||-------------------------------|
Looks like someone beat me to it, but the very last section is what I was talking about in the last post. have a good one!
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:30 PM
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Eternally grateful? I could use some of that. Just ship me a NYC Sadowsky and we'll call it even.
IF I had a NYC Sadowsky I would send it. Thanks.

I don't usually look at Tabs because half the time they have you going all the way up the neck to play something when you only need to move up a fret and over a string.

Thanks! And thanks Timo and Gin too.
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I usually play the high E with my ring finger and instead of playing the G after A on the fifth fret I play it open. Then when it goes A G E G E D B A I only use my ring and index fingers on the fifth and seventh frets.

This post will probably not help you play it at all.
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Old 08-30-2009, 05:04 PM
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I usually play the high E with my ring finger and instead of playing the G after A on the fifth fret I play it open. Then when it goes A G E G E D B A I only use my ring and index fingers on the fifth and seventh frets.

This post will probably not help you play it at all.
Actually it makes perfect sense. I've tried several ways, with the G on the D string, 5th fret, A string, 10th fret and open. I think it's a bit easier to play the G on the D string for the second part of the run as it puts you hand in the proper position for the rest of the notes.
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