slap & pop in a metal band??

zbaber · #1 01-23-2007, 06:51 PM

anybody incorporate a slap/pop style into metal songs? i know bands like rage against the machine have a slap/pop sound in some of their songs,... but there has to be others that i cant think of right now.. post up examples if u know of them. ( certain song examples preferably) to get an idea of what this sounds like?

the band im in is going for a metal sound, but i would prefer to incorporate my new found love for slap/pop into my basslines.. im just unsure of how it would sound/ if the band members would like it... (havent had a practice since i got this idea)

thanks ahead of time..

Depth_Charge · #2 01-23-2007, 07:01 PM

Check out Mudvayne. Ryan Martinie (sp?) uses slap and pop a fair bit, check out their song "Dig" for a prime example, mind the lyrics though

ihateusernames · #3 01-23-2007, 07:02 PM

+1 on ryan

zbaber · #4 01-23-2007, 07:03 PM

duh.. why did i not think of mudvayne... ill be sure to listen more carefully...thanks.. anymore u can think of?

Poop-Loops · #5 01-23-2007, 08:09 PM

ATHEIST!

Especially on the album "Elements".

Luis Fabara · #6 01-23-2007, 08:13 PM

I do It in my band Demolicion.

What I do is play slapping lines as tight as possible with the BassDrum/Snare when there is a powerful rythm section.

I also use it sometimes during drum fills.

DistortedBass · #7 01-23-2007, 08:17 PM

Flotsam and Jetsam -No more fun - When the storm comes down.

zbaber · #8 01-23-2007, 08:25 PM

ill be sure to check out all that u guys listed, ive been jammin on my mudvayne stuff, i dont know how i didnt hear all this bass playing before, its pretty much what im going for, or going to try to go for.... thanks for the examples guys..

rossiface · #9 01-23-2007, 08:42 PM

I do a fair share of slap/pop/double stops and so on in my metal band. A good practice and idea to incorporate those techniques against heavy guitar and drums is to learn the guitar line by only slapping with your thumb. When you get comfortable with that add a few pops and chords to spice. If you can play the guitar kine, it will give you a better idea what to do in your bass lines. Another band to check out is Endophine, sick bass player.

stabbicus · #10 01-24-2007, 08:25 AM

Colin Marston from Dysrhythmia and Behold...the Arctopus, I believe, uses slap and pop, among other techniques. Check out the new Dysrhythmia cd, Barriers and Passages, the entire thing is amazing, and they're only a three piece.

*edit* so i just saw a video of him on youtube...not any slapping and popping on the one i saw, but the tapping he does is cool

chaosMK · #11 01-24-2007, 08:30 AM

I slap all the time on the lower range of the bass (a 5 string), but rarely pop. I find that normal metal/hardcore riffs dont always become traditional slap/pop bass, at least for me.

Slapping lets you cut through with B string stuff far more than regular fingerstyle and has a little bit more percussive tone than a pick- that's why I love it. Getting your thumb super fast takes time though. If you listen to some of the songs on Left Brain's myspace, I slap in all of them.

DGbass70 · #12 01-24-2007, 10:16 AM

Infectious Grooves(ROBERT TRUJILLO)

The_Hat_Guy · #13 01-24-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rossiface

I do a fair share of slap/pop/double stops and so on in my metal band. A good practice and idea to incorporate those techniques against heavy guitar and drums is to learn the guitar line by only slapping with your thumb. When you get comfortable with that add a few pops and chords to spice. If you can play the guitar kine, it will give you a better idea what to do in your bass lines. Another band to check out is Endophine, sick bass player.

Do you mean Indorphine? from Orlando, FL? i have seen those guys many times, havent had the chance to play a gig with them yet as my band is taking a hiatus to finish up our album, but yeah, their bass players ( 2 of the guys switch back and forth) are prety good and they use alot of slap.

I personally try to incorporate slap into my band a little here and there. We are a new metal band, and it doesnt always work, so i try to use it sparingly. You would never guess though when I play by myself, because I spend alot of my practice time trying to replicate victor wooten lines, lol.

Slap with metal can be cool, but it can also completely kill the powerful drive that you might be looking for with a certain riff.

zbaber · #14 01-24-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Hat_Guy

Slap with metal can be cool, but it can also completely kill the powerful drive that you might be looking for with a certain riff.

ya.. i wouldnt play slap all the time, but on riffs where the "power" of the bass wasnt really needed, mainly the calmer riffs that i get more room for fills etc. the faster heavier stuff id just stick to fingerstyle... i just want to "stick out" if u will, and alot of people notice if u play a slap/pop style, plus i love the way it sounds

Jkfielder · #15 01-26-2007, 01:38 PM

nobody said primus? LES CLAYPOOL WAKE UP PEOPLE

Rattlehead · #16 01-26-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jkfielder

nobody said primus? LES CLAYPOOL WAKE UP PEOPLE

Most people don't really consider them to be metal ...

Another great slap player in metal is the guy in Cryptopsy (technical death metal band). Real wicked bass sound generally, even when fingerstyling.