Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-17-2008, 02:08 PM
Registered User

Freely Endorsing Hartke, DR, Subaru, and Nintendo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Suddenly, I can't pick!

Sign in to disble this ad
Alright, so after being primarily a pickstyle player for the first 5 years of my bass career, I switched over to using my fingers. I occasionally use a pick, but now when I use a pick for more than, say, a minute, my thumb starts to really cramp up. Am I just gripping the pick too hard? I'll try to get some photos taken of my picking hand and of the muscle that hurts.
If someone could please help, that would be great. I miss my fast pick lines
__________________
MIA Club #12/Modded Bass Club #6/βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ #60
  #2  
Old 10-17-2008, 02:11 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico.
Send a message via AIM to GerManson Send a message via MSN to GerManson Send a message via Yahoo to GerManson Send a message via Skype™ to GerManson
Quote:
Originally Posted by XansNiceSweater View Post
Alright, so after being primarily a pickstyle player for the first 5 years of my bass career, I switched over to using my fingers. I occasionally use a pick, but now when I use a pick for more than, say, a minute, my thumb starts to really cramp up. Am I just gripping the pick too hard? I'll try to get some photos taken of my picking hand and of the muscle that hurts.
If someone could please help, that would be great. I miss my fast pick lines
haha same happends to me..
but usually i get tired of that pick sound before my hand starts to hurt
__________________
Rickenbacker, Peavey, Gibson, Fender | Gallien Krueger, Ampeg | VTBass, BOSS
  #3  
Old 10-17-2008, 02:22 PM
jgroh's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Supporting Member
I had the same issue last night at practice. I have been a pick player for over 20 years and last year started working on fingerstyle. So, I found that I am now getting better with my fingers, but Im not great yet and my picking is suffering.

You are probably holding the pick too tight with a combination of thinking about it too much. I personally think that I am going to go back to picking unless I am on my fretless because I was very good with the pick and now I am just mediocre with both.
  #4  
Old 10-18-2008, 01:15 AM
Registered User

Freely Endorsing Hartke, DR, Subaru, and Nintendo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
if I don't hold it tightly I feel like I'm going to drop it, I use pretty heavy picks.
Any ideas on how to get me out of this mental box?
__________________
MIA Club #12/Modded Bass Club #6/βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ #60
  #5  
Old 10-18-2008, 01:19 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
LOL and here I thought this was going to be a thread about "Which should i buy? the P-Bass or the J-Bass????" thank God it's not =)

Try alternate picking or when you're playing slower parts, switch between upstrokes and downstrokes so your muscles aren't working in the same direction. The other thing could be that you aren't properly stretching and warming up prior to playing with a pick or your fingers. Warming up is just as important in music as it is in exercise or sports.
__________________
Christian P&W Bassists Club: #354
Avatar Owners Club: #194
  #6  
Old 10-18-2008, 02:18 PM
Registered User

Freely Endorsing Hartke, DR, Subaru, and Nintendo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Sore_Fingerz View Post
LOL and here I thought this was going to be a thread about "Which should i buy? the P-Bass or the J-Bass????" thank God it's not =)

Try alternate picking or when you're playing slower parts, switch between upstrokes and downstrokes so your muscles aren't working in the same direction. The other thing could be that you aren't properly stretching and warming up prior to playing with a pick or your fingers. Warming up is just as important in music as it is in exercise or sports.
The muscle cramp is in the muscle on my thumb that grips the pick, just next to the palm of my hand.
I'll try the warm-ups, that was another thought I had
__________________
MIA Club #12/Modded Bass Club #6/βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ #60
  #7  
Old 10-18-2008, 02:27 PM
seanm's Avatar
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Send a message via AIM to seanm Send a message via Yahoo to seanm
GOLD Supporting Member
If I try to play with a pick my fingers get very tired. I think it is just lack of practice.

Try practicing with the pick. As soon as you start to hurt, switch to fingers. Then later switch back to pick. Should help build the muscles back up without seriously affecting your practice time and without any damage.
__________________
The Rippers
  #8  
Old 10-19-2008, 04:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Perth
Quote:
Originally Posted by XansNiceSweater View Post
Alright, so after being primarily a pickstyle player for the first 5 years of my bass career, I switched over to using my fingers. I occasionally use a pick, but now when I use a pick for more than, say, a minute, my thumb starts to really cramp up. Am I just gripping the pick too hard? I'll try to get some photos taken of my picking hand and of the muscle that hurts.
If someone could please help, that would be great. I miss my fast pick lines
The same happens to me, but I just change the way I'm holding the pick.
  #9  
Old 10-19-2008, 04:17 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tampere, Finland
After playing some years with heavy picks I recently switched to 0.73mm Dunlop Tortex tringle picks. Wow. I guess the harder you hit the softer pick you need - I used to get only lots of clang from the fast riffs, now there's a lot more punch and since I have a compressor there's no change in volume compared to harder picks.

I hold my pick guitar-style so that there's only the very tip peeking from under the middle of the side of my thumb. The pick is angled 90 degrees to my thumb.
__________________
The best metal for bass.
  #10  
Old 10-19-2008, 04:51 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: New Delhi, India
no matter how much i try, i cant pick at all
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM View Post
if you want to make a million dollars in music, start with 2 million
LESSONS = GAS killers!
  #11  
Old 10-20-2008, 08:24 AM
Registered User

Freely Endorsing Hartke, DR, Subaru, and Nintendo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Quote:
Originally Posted by atheos View Post
After playing some years with heavy picks I recently switched to 0.73mm Dunlop Tortex tringle picks. Wow. I guess the harder you hit the softer pick you need - I used to get only lots of clang from the fast riffs, now there's a lot more punch and since I have a compressor there's no change in volume compared to harder picks.

I hold my pick guitar-style so that there's only the very tip peeking from under the middle of the side of my thumb. The pick is angled 90 degrees to my thumb.
Yeah, that doesn't work for me because I hold the pick in sort of a weird way - I'll try to get a picture.
__________________
MIA Club #12/Modded Bass Club #6/βΘИΞКЯŲŜĦÏИĞ #60
  #12  
Old 10-20-2008, 08:25 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
I started to get a thumb pain too but I believe is because of the pick. When new out of of the bag it feels comfy but when it starts to worn out considerably the pick gets smaller so I notice I struggle to hold it. I use big stubby 2.0mm but I also use 1.0mm wich are much longer which gives more reach. Oddly I start getting this while switching to fingers and then picking after so i dont know if my hand is forgetting to pick or if its the pick.
__________________
ATK Club member #48

Last edited by bamx : 10-20-2008 at 08:32 AM.
  #13  
Old 10-20-2008, 08:34 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida
Quote:
Am I just gripping the pick too hard?
To combat the "death grip" I use this:

http://www.music123.com/ZeroGravity-...23480.Music123

To bad the pick is too thin
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by referring to the bassist from King Diamond
He is 100 times the musician that Jerko was
  #14  
Old 10-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
Any word on those pictures? I have a similar problem, and want to compare how I hold the pick.
__________________
Canadian Club Member #32, Yorkville/Traynor Club Member #3, Electronic/Synth/Experimental Bassists Club #81

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudfuzz View Post
But it is a muffiant not a supperfuzziant or a fuzzfaciant or a gated-fuzziant.
  #15  
Old 10-29-2008, 08:02 PM
NKUSigEp's Avatar
Remember 12/21/2012! ...it's my birthday!
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Cheviot, OH
Supporting Member
Same thing happened to me...used a pick most of the time, started using only fingers for a year or two and then went back to a pick and took a while to get it back. Just keep practicing.
__________________
Adam
Official Aguilar Club Founder; Spector Club #84
  #16  
Old 10-30-2008, 12:47 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Send a message via ICQ to Slax
I was a pick player for many years and then switched to finger style. I feel whenever I play with a pick now (even noticed shortly after stopping with a pick) that my muscles "cry" about it.

I guess it's just something you keep working on or lose quickly type of deal... *shrugs*

It's funny though. My finger playing stays the same, or gets a little worse, if I don't practice, but my pick playing seems to take a HUGE hit if I stop for any period of time... strange....
__________________
SX Club member in good standing
Rickenbacker Club Member #157
Rattle Can Refinish Club #7
  #17  
Old 10-30-2008, 06:08 AM
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
Why I keep hammering the Carol Kaye pick method
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:47 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.