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Old 08-27-2008, 08:15 PM
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Sweeping, and double thumbing

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OMG I think I just learned the basics of sweeping and double thumbing A friend burned a bunch of youtube bass vids for me and sent them to me. Lots of Sheehan lessons and one by Victor Wooten. I watched some of it and then a little while ago picked up my VMJ and gave it shot...WOW!! And here I said before I didn't care if I learned to sweep or double thumb...what was I thinking.... I have noticed though I am having a bit of a prob getting some power in on the upstroke with the thumb. Is that normal just learning? I have also caught myself a couple of times when I try to go thumb down, up, then index finger I have ended up going thumb, index finger, thumb... thats not right ..duuhh

Just had to make a comment on it and at the least, can't believe I am picking up how to sweep
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:22 PM
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Try using your index finger when doing upstrokes.

Down = thumb

Up = index

Seems more natural to me, although I can't sweep worth crap on any instrument, haha.
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:24 PM
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Congratulations! My opinion is that these "advanced" techniques are easier if you're relaxed and confident. The "power" comes from accuracy and good timing, not from strong muscles. As you practice, your accuracy and timing will improve, and it will become effortless. If you watch Victor, notice how relaxed he looks...
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:28 PM
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I started a thread here a few weeks back about learning to shred and sweeping came up and double thumbing. A nice TBer PMd me a link to a sweeping lesson in text (I could never get the audio to play for it) and I read it and it was like *crickets chirping in the dead silence left in the wake of me not making any sense out of it LOL* so I was like 'thanks but I will pass...HAH...until today when I got the CD in and popped it in my laptop. WOW!!! I see lots of days of really honing up on my right hand technique ahead for sure!!!!! This is going to totally rock!!!!! And thanks for your suggestion!! I welcome all!!
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
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Congratulations! My opinion is that these "advanced" techniques are easier if you're relaxed and confident. The "power" comes from accuracy and good timing, not from strong muscles. As you practice, your accuracy and timing will improve, and it will become effortless. If you watch Victor, notice how relaxed he looks...
Agreed! And Victor did look very relaxed. Sheehan blows me away as well. Hes so fast. Man I can't wait to get better at all this and it also dawned on me; to shred I feel I need to know some of these other techniques to better help me with that. Does that make any sense? I also do a bit of tapping as well. But adding these other techniques into my playing has just opened up so many more possibilities for my 'style' Man Im stoked!! LOL
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:49 PM
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Its awesome your opening your repertoire on the bass with sweeping and double thumping but don't invest 100% (or just lots) of your time on techniques you'll probably only really use less than 10% of the time.

But good stuff, ive been working these two out myself too recently.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:20 PM
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I see what you are saying. ^_^ And I am practicing those techniques as well as my normal technique. Some of the new moves I am working on is coming along very well. The double thumbing is being a problem. LOL I seem to be able to double thumb going up (GDAE) and have worked on better sound/strength on the upstroke, but I can't seem to go down the strings (EADG) worth a darn for some reason! I also noticed that double thumbing is a lot like this one weird move I do with my index finger (sometimes my middle finger), I can relax the first joint in that finger and double hit the string not too unlike double thumbing. So with that in mind I actually purposely set out to double 'thumb' with my index finger and it didnt work out too bad. It IS hard to add another plucking finger into the mix like that but right now I am exploring all ways of using the right hand on the board.

My right hand technique used to be pick only and then pick and 2nd and 3rd finger plucking with it (what I was always told was hybrid picking)...then when I got back into playing after being out of it for several years I went straight to plucking only. My style there has been 2 finger, 3 finger, something all 4...whichever -- my plucking style has been rather 'loose' I guess but it works for me.

I read threads here on technique and pay attention to things said and such. I am very eager to learn new things on the bass, I will even try things that most will say is a no-no just to see why its considered a no-no. LOL I was reading the latest thread on Cliff Burtons style and someone described how he always rested the palm of his right hand on the board but it was 'wrong' technique. Okay.... so... I tried it anyway ...You know what, resting the palm of my plucking hand on the body actually works really cool for /me/. LOL I cant see why its considered wrong. Well I can but if your fingers are long enough I don't see it as 'wrong'. I also will straighten my pinky out sometimes and have it on the board as an anchor too when I pluck. OOooo I guess thats wrong too? I have to wonder how what works for someone be considered 'bad technique'? But thats another subject.

Anyway, I was given a link to a Sheehan solo and thats what really opened my eyes to just how far you can go with right hand technique. I was floored watching him. I have so wanted to be able to break loose on a bass LIKE THAT!!! Some people call him a 'wanker' for some of his style? What??? My first thought on that is the ones that cut him down for that are ticked cause /they/ cant do it is what I think. So as stated above, a friend took several vids from youtube, burned them and sent them to me. Included in that was several Sheehan lessons. I watched one and was amazed that some of his left hand technique I ALREADY DO!!!!!!!!! At least one of his 'economy of motion' techniques I have done now for awhile and I find it cool that at least one other bass player figured one trick out too

I am seriously going to pick up some Sheehan books and vids as well as Wooten (if he has any out). I never had any influence the first time I played, not even the one that inspired me to take the bass up (Gene Simmons). All kidding aside, Simmons is not a bad bass player. But, hes too cut and dry, too 'normal', he doesn't push the envelope. He works the bass too mundane to be honest. I know several of his pieces for KISS. They are not bad actually. God of Thunder has a great bass riff and it was the ONLY thing I could remember to play when I picked the bass back up. LOL


I wonder, has anyone else been inspired to pick up bass because of one artist yet never took any more influence from said inspiration?
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