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12-22-2003, 11:57 PM
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I've been doing triplets for a few years now, I've been working in some new ideas but I'd like to get more ideas and opinions, suggestions etc. basically I want to learn more ways to do triplets, here's some soundclips
N. 1: this triplets are ala Wooten, everybody can do it, thumb down, thumb up and pluck, very easy and cool triplets, I'm posting the soundclips just as a reference of how I do the triplets, the bass is recorded directly to my soundcard. | 
12-23-2003, 12:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reno Nevada | | N. 2: this triplets are similar to the first one, but I pluck twice instead of once, thumb down, thumb up, index pluck and middle pluck.
This is the first time I record and post soundclips, the timing might be a little off, so go easy on me  | 
12-23-2003, 12:10 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reno Nevada | | N. 3: this triplets are a little hard (my favorite), I've been working on this triplets for a few weeks now, what I do is; I slap the E string (muted) anywhere on the board, hammer, slap (muted), and double pluck (index and middle), I do some other variations, but I wanna learn other ways to make triplets so if any one have and Idea, another way or a suggestion please let me know.
Thanks guys 
Last edited by The Bass Guru : 12-23-2003 at 12:17 AM.
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12-23-2003, 12:31 AM
| | | Very cool.
now post some pictures!
I have been working on triplets a lot myself, tough I can't do it as well as you!
I'm working on it though!
one note, wouldn't the second one by a quadrate? not a triplet 
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12-23-2003, 12:37 AM
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one note, wouldn't the second one by a quadrate? not a triplet | Yeah, I guess so, what about the third one?? I hit the strings 5 times with that motion, what should I call it?  | 
12-23-2003, 12:38 AM
| | | | hmmm quintet?
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12-23-2003, 12:41 AM
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12-23-2003, 02:42 AM
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12-23-2003, 03:34 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | | Re: Triplets (again) Quote: Originally posted by The Bass Guru I've been doing triplets for a few years now, I've been working in some new ideas but I'd like to get more ideas and opinions, suggestions etc. basically I want to learn more ways to do triplets... | Well there's nothing hard about triplets, as such - it's just putting three notes, where you would expect a group of 2, according to the time signature.
So - you can have triplet groups in slow ballads - like Mingus's "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" has some very slow triplet groups, as part of the main melody.
In fact most Jazz has a "triplet feel" - this is what gives it its swing, in some contexts.
So - if you have a very slow ballad - where you would expect 4 beats in the bar - but could easily play 8 (or even 16) - then if you play two group of 3 - that is : six notes in the bar - then you have played triplets - it's just a different way of subdividing the bar and making the rhythmic feel, less "square".
You have replaced two groups of two with two groups of three! So - that's the simplest way to do it - but of course you can put in groups of 3 eigtht notes and break up the bar even more - you are just adding more rhythmic interest ....but what you are doing is what Jazz often tends to do - implying a 12/8 time signature in an ostensibly 4/4 tune.
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12-23-2003, 03:44 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote: Originally posted by The Bass Guru Yeah, I guess so, what about the third one?? I hit the strings 5 times with that motion, what should I call it? | There are two "offical" names for that - but neither is quintet!!
So I alway call it "quintuplet" or quintuple time - but my music dictionary says it can also be known as "quintole" !!
"Groups of 5 notes, or notes and rests, of equal time value, written to be played in the time of 4 or 3."
(Oxford Dictionary of Music)
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12-23-2003, 09:16 AM
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12-23-2003, 09:17 AM
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12-23-2003, 01:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Louisville, KY | | I've always heard it called a quintuplet in orchestra and 'classical' music in general. A quadrate wouldn't be dividing anything into a group of 3 so it'd just be four 32nd notes or something
How about doing....
thumb - left hand slap - thumb
thumb - left hand slap - pluck
thumb - left hand slap - middle - index (you can really get this one sounding FAST without much effort)
I also do one where I slap down - slap up - pluck w/ thumb. I suppose you could just do down - up - down but I'm not very good at that. Anyway, it gives you a triplet without using your other fingers. It makes it easy to do down - up - pluck thumb - middle - index - left hand slep and get a quick sextuplet. If this was confusing I'll try to take a picture haha. Neat thread. | 
12-23-2003, 02:04 PM
| | | At wootcamp, there was a kid who would do down/up with his thumb then quickly do a rake with all four fingers in succession.
combined with some left handed stuff, it created quite the cacophony of clicky noises
One thing I do sometimes, is down up with my thumb but ALSO down up with each finger.
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12-23-2003, 07:10 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reno Nevada | | Quote: Originally posted by ole Jason I've always heard it called a quintuplet in orchestra and 'classical' music in general. A quadrate wouldn't be dividing anything into a group of 3 so it'd just be four 32nd notes or something
How about doing....
thumb - left hand slap - thumb
thumb - left hand slap - pluck
thumb - left hand slap - middle - index (you can really get this one sounding FAST without much effort)
I also do one where I slap down - slap up - pluck w/ thumb. I suppose you could just do down - up - down but I'm not very good at that. Anyway, it gives you a triplet without using your other fingers. It makes it easy to do down - up - pluck thumb - middle - index - left hand slep and get a quick sextuplet. If this was confusing I'll try to take a picture haha. Neat thread. | Cool, by left hand slap you mean slapping the open string with the left hand or just a hammer on??
I also like doing triplets just in one string (ala Abe Laboriel), thumb down, hammer on, thumb up, I'll post some soundclips tonight after practice, I'll try to post a sextuplet (Mexican HexaSlap Deluxe) 
thanks guys!! keep the replys with ideas coming 
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12-23-2003, 07:14 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Reno Nevada | | | Oh yeah, I got a few PMs saying that they can't hear the soundclips, just right click and save target as. | 
12-24-2003, 02:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Louisville, KY | | Yeah just slap your left hand palm against the strings for a good ole clack
Raking is neat too, although personally I can't do much with less than six strings haha. If I'm slapping on the A string I will rake the B and E with the thumb before plucking the A string. This is neat for muted grace notes coming into a downbeat. | 
12-29-2003, 01:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden | | Since I assume we are talking about slapping triplets here, I also use my left hand a bit.
I use the techniques described by ole Jason, but also this little gimmick, which I use to trick people into believing that I can slap really fast (i'm NOT good at slapping)
pop - left hand slap - muted thumb, or
pop - pop - lhs - mt, and to make a quintol (that's what they're called in Sweden!)
pop - pop - lhs - mt - lhs
Nothing advanced at all really, but it makes a lot of noise! They're also quite easy to play right after eachother, so you can fill a bar with them if you can't come up with anything interesting to play!  | 
12-31-2003, 02:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston, TX! | | I don't mean to change subjects but how exactly do you do the thumb up portion of the thumb down-up-pop thing? I just can't seem to get it right.  | 
12-31-2003, 04:18 PM
| | | Not trying to hijack here,
just adding a little aide for Nick B.
I recorded these this morning, excuse the flub up on the first one, it's hard to do 3 things at once(positioning, playing and hitting play)
Nick, there are 2 ways that I do double thumb, one is over the Fretboard(what I do most often) the other is past teh fretboard, experiment with different angles of your hand and thumb to get something that is comfortable for you.
I included a pop in this, but ...eh...juts focus on the thumb. Past the Fretboard Over the Fretboard
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