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Old 02-28-2009, 06:52 AM
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what chord is this at around the 8 sec mark. I'm extremely limited on chord knowledge. I tried the 1-3-flat 7 but I don't think that was it.

Any help is appreciated.

The song is "Holy Spirit" by Ricky Dillard

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I hear it as a Db Major. Something like this:

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Thanks, but how do you form this Db Major chord on the major scale (The Ionian I believe its called?) What are the finger positions?
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Major chords are always formed with the root, 3rd and 5th of the major scale (Ionian mode). The Db Major scale is

Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db

I've put the root, third and fifth in bold so you can see that the notes in a Db Major chord are Db, F and Ab. I leave the finger positions for you to figure out. (Hint: every note in measure 3 except the final Bb is in the Db Major chord.)

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Major chords are always formed with the root, 3rd and 5th of the major scale (Ionian mode). The Db Major scale is

Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db

I've put the root, third and fifth in bold so you can see that the notes in a Db Major chord are Db, F and Ab. I leave the finger positions for you to figure out. (Hint: every note in measure 3 except the final Bb is in the Db Major chord.)
Some people have become used to the fact that if you wait long enough the correct answer will be given to you. I think you were very generous in posting that short transcription.

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Febs, I appreciate you providing me with help and not just useless comments. Thanks again.
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what chord is this at around the 8 sec mark. I'm extremely limited on chord knowledge. I tried the 1-3-flat 7 but I don't think that was it.

Any help is appreciated.

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Eric,

If you'd like to learn some basic chord theory..:

As Febs mentioned above, the basic triad consists of the root (I), third (III), and fifth (V).

To understand major vs minor, and "perfect" vs diminished vs augmented, you should know that in the 8-note scale (including the octave), only the 4 and 5 can be diminished (flattened a half tone). All the other notes (2, 3, 6, 7) are "minor" when flattened a half tone. Sharpening a half tone yields an augmented "X" (2-7).

So, with this in mind, and using the C Ionian scale (C D E F G A B C) the main triads are:

MAJOR: C E G
MINOR: C Eb G
DIMINISHED: C Eb Gb
AUGMENTED: C E G#

Now, if you add in a fourth note to the chord (commonly the 7th) you need to know that in the notation, one "maj" refers to the 7th being major (a half-tone below the octave) and one "min" (or just "m") refers to the 3rd (being flat). The 3rd default is MAJOR and the 7th default is MINOR... SO:

C Maj 7: C E G B (C major triad + major 7th: B is a half-tone below C)
C Dominant 7 (Or just C7) : C E G Bb (C major triad + minor 7th)
C min 7: C Eb G Bb (C minor triad + minor 7th)
C Diminished 7: C Eb Gb Bbb (C diminished with double flat B, which is equivalent to an A)
C Minor Major 7: C Eb G B (C minor triad + major 7)

Then you can get into 6ths, 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, sus4 etc etc...

A good book that explains this (and much more) is the Total Jazz Bassist by Overthrow & Ferguson.

I hope that helps.

Asher

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Eric,

If you'd like to learn some basic chord theory..:

As Febs mentioned above, the basic triad consists of the root (I), third (III), and fifth (V).

To understand major vs minor, and "perfect" vs diminished vs augmented, you should know that in the 8-note scale (including the octave), only the 4 and 5 can be diminished (flattened a half tone). All the other notes (2, 3, 6, 7) are "minor" when flattened a half tone. Sharpening a half tone yields an augmented "X" (2-7).

So, with this in mind, and using the C Ionian scale (C D E F G A B C) the main triads are:

MAJOR: C E G
MINOR: C Eb G
DIMINISHED: C Eb Gb
AUGMENTED: C E G#

Now, if you add in a fourth note to the chord (commonly the 7th) you need to know that in the notation, one "maj" refers to the 7th being major (a half-tone below the octave) and one "min" (or just "m") refers to the 3rd (being flat). The 3rd default is MAJOR and the 7th default is MINOR... SO:

C Maj 7: C E G B (C major triad + major 7th: B is a half-tone below C)
C Dominant 7 (Or just C7) : C E G Bb (C major triad + minor 7th)
C min 7: C Eb G Bb (C minor triad + minor 7th)
C Diminished 7: C Eb Gb Bbb (C diminished with double flat B, which is equivalent to an A)
C Minor Major 7: C Eb G B (C minor triad + major 7)

Then you can get into 6ths, 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, sus4 etc etc...

A good book that explains this (and much more) is the Total Jazz Bassist by Overthrow & Ferguson.

I hope that helps.

Asher
Asher, this is good stuff. I've printed out your reply and will use it in my study session tomorrow. I'm sure I'll eventually have a light bulb moment and everything will become clear as day. Thanks again.
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My pleasure- I will also suggest that you write/draw out the fretboard patterns for all of those chords. Then you can transpose to any key quite easily, and you can see how certain chords and scales/modes fit together.
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