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11-26-2009, 12:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: cliffbass | | | What is overplaying ?
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11-26-2009, 01:07 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tulsa | | I think overplaying is putting too many notes into a song the really needs less to sound correct - something I have to constantly work on. I don't notice it until I hear a playback and wonder what the crap I was doing  . More often than not I think the minimalist approach ends up sounded best to the general audience, though it can vary with genre.
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11-26-2009, 01:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway | | That's what I've learned after the few recording I've done too. On a recording, bass in my genre (metal) often sounds better if it is done simple rather than fancy show-off-like. The simpler the better is not true, but no need mashing in too many notes as it ends up untight (I play fingers) and too indistinguishable.
The best example I can think of general overplayign is this. |
11-26-2009, 01:22 PM
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11-26-2009, 01:41 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Most of Billy Sheehan solos fit into that category. IMHO
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11-26-2009, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: cliffbass | | | ok ty :P Btw dragon force sucks |
11-26-2009, 01:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia | | | That's when your drummer is playing quarter notes, your guitarist is playing 8th notes, and you're playing 16th note triplets over two octaves of the scale.
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11-26-2009, 02:25 PM
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11-26-2009, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by XtreO The best example I can think of general overplayign is this. | That isn't overplaying - the point of Dragonforce is that they are ridiculously over-the-top. Playing loads of notes isn't necessarily overplaying if it suits the song - see Level 42, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc
Overplaying is when you play a Primus bassline over the top of Mustang Sally.
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11-26-2009, 02:42 PM
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11-26-2009, 05:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, UK | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Nerve | Is that Chuck Norris on bass?
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11-26-2009, 06:02 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | When an excessive amount of notes becomes detrimental to the song.
Playing a lot of notes in itself isn't bad, sometimes it works fine. |
11-26-2009, 06:06 PM
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Endorsing Artist: SWR Amplifiers | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia | | | Sometimes the problem is that in the attempt do something that in the moment seems really cool but a bit difficult, we make errors some other aspect of bassplaying suffers and we cease (for a while) to provide good timing, good harmonic content, a good groove, and useful cues to the rest of the band. |
11-26-2009, 06:13 PM
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11-26-2009, 06:17 PM
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One person's overplaying is anothers' beautiful garden. |
11-26-2009, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Papersen Most of Billy Sheehan solos fit into that category. IMHO | I was thinking this before I got into this thread. |
11-26-2009, 07:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX | | | If it's really fast and it sucks, it's overplaying.
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11-26-2009, 07:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (M)a$$hole. | | | overplaying is when you suck out the soul of a song by jacking off a bunch of notes that aren't necessary to feed your ego. Can't stand that mentality. Alot of cats can at least do it musically and can enhance the song, but many many more cannot and just bring the song down...the Live song linked is a PERFECT example.
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11-26-2009, 09:19 PM
| | | | The opposite of underplaying. Also seems a little more rare... |
11-26-2009, 11:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Memphis,Tn | | Quote:
Originally Posted by XtreO That's what I've learned after the few recording I've done too. On a recording, bass in my genre (metal) often sounds better if it is done simple rather than fancy show-off-like. The simpler the better is not true, but no need mashing in too many notes as it ends up untight (I play fingers) and too indistinguishable.
The best example I can think of general overplayign is this. | At this point my drummer usually screams "oh, pick a note!"... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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