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Old 10-05-2010, 12:38 PM
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Hey guys, i have gotten this really cool groove which uses these tones:
E, F#, G#, A, Bb, C# D

The tone im alittle bit insecure about is the D, because when i play it in a pattern on the E string, it sounds "misplaced", but when i use that note in a compination of ONLY those i mentioned above, it fits.

Could anybody tell me what scale this actually is?

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Old 10-05-2010, 12:52 PM
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Hey guys, i have gotten this really cool groove which uses these tones:
E, F#, G#, A, Bb, C# D
E Dominant 7th is as close as I can get
intervals: 1,2,3,4,5,6,b7
half-steps: 2-2-1-2-2-1-2
notes: E,F#,G#,A,B,C#,D
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Hey guys, i have gotten this really cool groove which uses these tones:
E, F#, G#, A, Bb, C# D
Most of the time when you see sharps and flats in the same scale - with the phrase; "...this really cool groove" it's not going to fit into a specific scale.

E Dominant 7th is as close as I can get
intervals: 1,2,3,4,5,6,b7
half-steps: 2-2-1-2-2-1-2
notes: E,F#,G#,A,B,C#,D

Try here http://www.looknohands.com/chordhous.../index_rb.html or perhaps some one else can nail it for you.
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thanks man, right on the spot, actually the Bb was miswritten, it should have been a B.

But thank you very much!
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Would also be interesting to know which note is the root. Is it really E?
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im thinking too. Cause E is used in the pattern, but F# feels like the root, and that note is the one that everything kind of leads back too
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A Major with a flat 2, or E Mixolydian with a flat 5.

Or to explain it another way.....

If you play a B natural instead of B flat, it will be A Major (E Mixolydian)

That's about the easiest way to think of it.
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yep, just looked the same up, looks like the pattern is an E-Mixolydian http://www.angelfire.com/id/bass/major.html ~ http://jguitar.com/scale/E/Mixolydian
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If F# is the root, it's F# minor (aeolian mode).
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I can't remember the name of the scale, but I do know it has been banned in most countries for it's sheer awesomeness. True story.
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Since your Bb is really a B, it is A Major.
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I was disappointed to see the Bb turn to a B - Bb would be much more fun as a minor 2nd in A or a diminshed 5th in E (with a dominant 7). Can we bring back the Bb?
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is it not the second mode of melodic major?
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Since your Bb is really a B, it is A Major.
If A is the root, maybe.

Hard to tell without knowing, just listing all possible scales won't really help, I'm afraid. Or at least not be as helpful.
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True, but I still want the Bb back...
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if the Bb is a B, and the root is actually F# nashrakh is right its F# natural minor (or aeolian)
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Old 10-05-2010, 04:12 PM
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Altered. Also known as the diminished whole tone scale. The reason you guys where having trouble is that this isn't major scale harmony but rather melodic minor.
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The reason you guys where having trouble is that this isn't major scale harmony but rather melodic minor.
Wait, what. I don't see any trouble here, just sparse information leading to various stabs in the dark that could or could not be what he is looking for. Same goes for you.
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With the Bb could be called the Lynch Mode.

He's a huge fan of mixolydian with some flat fifths thrown in for good measure.
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At first i thought it was a E Lydian Mixolydian but the A doesn't work. It is kind of weird like it is because of the 3 chromatic notes in a row. I don't know beside the Dominant Lydian.
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