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Old 10-16-2006, 01:14 AM
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Whats a good starting place for learning how to slap?

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I'm wanting to learn how to slap, but I can't do it at all. Where is a good place to learn? Also, should i even be trying to slap on a squier p-bass? Thanks in advance for the help!

Also, is it possible to slap and have my bass hanging low? or do i need to move my strap up high? I'm kind of wanting to slap the way flea does, but i'm not sure if thats the best thing to do or not.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:10 AM
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I'm wanting to learn how to slap, but I can't do it at all. Where is a good place to learn? Also, should i even be trying to slap on a squier p-bass? Thanks in advance for the help!

Also, is it possible to slap and have my bass hanging low? or do i need to move my strap up high? I'm kind of wanting to slap the way flea does, but i'm not sure if thats the best thing to do or not.
Hi Duo, im also llearning to slap. I started off getting my thumb technique down. Try to get really accurate with a good tone.Try thumbing basslines you normaly play fingerstyle/pick, eventually you will get that licked. I then i bought Tony Oppenheim's Slap It, to get some rythmic slapping and popping patterns. The more i learn the more i realise not to be too heavy handed when slapping. Its all about being nimble and efficient...

Yes you can slap on any bass as long as you get a good tone. Tony Oppenheim slaps on a P bass. As for wearing the bass low, do what ever feels comfortable. But definately dont wear it low just because Flea does. Your playing the bass not Flea..

One more thing, Muting is really important, but sometimes can be hard to explain how to unless your shown. I sort of fumbled along but eventually your fingers/mind learn to damp out any unwanted noise from other strings..

Good luck bro.

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Old 10-16-2006, 08:14 AM
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ur strap length shouldnt matter that much. any bass can be slapped but make sure ur bass is set up well
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Old 10-16-2006, 08:17 AM
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Buy the book Slap It! cant go wrong with that.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:26 AM
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These help me get started...

http://www.cyberschoolofbass.com/index.html

http://www.slapit.com/example.html
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:07 AM
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I Started just by slapping an open E and then eventually plucked up the courage to pop an E on the D String and just did it over and over picking up speed.

Once you get this just move up the neck slapping and popping octaves and try changing you rhythm.

After i had been doing this for a while i watched a dvd by about flea and apparantly this is how he figured out how to do it too .

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Old 10-17-2006, 04:10 AM
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Also, Higher Ground by the chili peppers is great for this.
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:09 AM
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:23 AM
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THE SLAP BASS PROGRAM WITH ALEXIS SKLAREVSKI - DVD

FUNK BASS - BOOK

Get the DVD first. Then work through the book.

Yes you can slap on that bass. I like the strings a little higher for slapping. My four string has the wider string spacing and a higher string action, my six string has narrow string spacing and low string action. I can not slap on my 6 string worth a darn. Take your bass to have the frets leveled, the nut and bridge and neck adjusted, the electronics checked, and the pickup heights adjusted. Should be around 100 dollars or so. It is expensive, but worth it. Just because your bass is a cheaper bass does not mean that a good luther can't make it play better.

On a four string bass, I like to pluck the first string with my middle finger, and the second string with my index finger. I find that when I position my thumb where I want it my middle finger ends up exactly where I want it under the first string, and I find that it is easier with my shorter index finger to dive in and under the second string...between the first and second string I mean. Don't make these choices early. Do it a LOT in many different ways. You do not know which way you like until you do it a few different ways for hours and hours and hours.

If you spend hours per day sitting in a chair practicing, and only gig out here and there, you are better off adjusting your strap for standing to locate the bass exactly where it is in your lap while sitting. Put on the strap, sit down, adjust strap, stand up. I think Flea spends a lot of his playing time standing up and running around, so he is more used to a bass position different than his sitting position.

If you keep your bass lower, it will not effect your thumb slap, but it will slow down your fretting hand speed. I keep my bass higher because I fan out my fretting fingers and place my thumb on the BOTTOM THIRD of the back of the neck. You can not do this with a low hanging bass, but also, no way can you you play what I can play with a low hanging bass.

It is interesting with the advancment in bass and with more good players becoming visible to the public, playing the bass in a higher position is not as uncool as it used to be. In fact, I am starting to wonder if playing a six string bass higher will become kind of the cool thing.

There are some snobs on talkbass who do not like Flea and who think that hanging the bass lower is like a sign that someone is not serious about their music. I guess they do not remember their youth. I like Flea. I like the look of a lower hanging bass even though I don't do it. Do what you like, continue evaluating your self, your style, and your appearance on stage, be willing to change, and if Flea can do it so can you. Be young. Be happy.

The hair, the shoes, the bass, its all a part of the package. If you are in a band that fits an image, or looking to get in a band with a specific image, you gotta fit in. We are a ruthlessly tribal animal, even in this day and age. There was a thread here last year about what type of bass was best for Punk Rock, and so many people said that Punk was all about doing what you want and if you wanted to play a pink paisley bass that was cool. I disagree. The Punk tribe will outcast you as quick or quicker than any other tribe.

Remember that slapping is fun, and if the group you are with is into it you are free to do what you like, but you will get more gigs and get paid more to play in better places and with better bands by laying down simple basic fingerstyle funk/rock parts to mainstream type music. Do what you want, but realize what limits you and what expands you. Make your own choice, but be aware of the consequences.

One last thing, the meat at the base of your thumb and heal of your slapping hand are your friends to mute the strings. Listen for when this is done. And the rest of your fretting hand is your friend to "drape" accross the strings you are not playing to help them not ring. Good players do not just have good tone, they also allow only the correct strings to ring out. When I play fingerstyle, my plucking hand thumb dampens the strings above, and my fretting hand fingers dampen the strings below, and only the string I am playing is heard. There is no background garbage. People who say somone has good tone are typically not aware of how important that is to the overall sound.

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Old 10-17-2006, 10:19 PM
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Thats basically the reason i want my bass to hang a little lower. I'm not talking about really low. Mine isn't as low as fleas or else i couldn't play. But I'm 5'5. Without meaning to be offensive, if i have my bass high up i look like a midgit. So hanging it low kind of helps with that. But I have noticed that it's a harder reach, so i might move it back up. Really, I just need a different strap. And strap locks. But thats beside the point. I'm not doing anything because Flea does it, more because flea can do it. If he can hang his bass that low and still play that fast and that good, then I don't see why I can't either. I think i might order that Slap It dvd off of amazon. And yes I finall am getting my bass "lutherized" for those of you who remember my thread about my action. Also, what is a good site to learn about music theory? Like, beginner music theory? As in, the only thing I know is the major scale, a pentatonic scale, and the note each string plays beginner?
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Also, Higher Ground by the chili peppers is great for this.
I don't know why people keep saying higher ground is good for begginners, i think its really hard! If you play it correctly anyway.

I'd recommend Can't Stop before higher ground. It's a pretty easy slap song.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:29 PM
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wait...i just tried playing Higher Ground using all 4 strings instead of just EAD.....much easier.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:54 PM
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:38 PM
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You might try Mel Bay's "Slappin': Complete Study of Slap...". Cheap, easy, has tab if ya can't read (and vise versa), covers a lot of the basics. Also maybe check out "Percussive Slap Bass" by the same company - a little more advanced, but worth the time and effort. Happy trails!

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Old 10-19-2006, 08:56 AM
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Also, what is a good site to learn about music theory? Like, beginner music theory? As in, the only thing I know is the major scale, a pentatonic scale, and the note each string plays beginner?
http://www.activebass.com/

http://www.daveonbass.com/links/bass.htm

http://www.adamnitti.com/lessons.shtml

And many people here recommend the book Bass Guitar for Dummies. They say it really is a great book for beginners.
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i would aslo recomend alexis sklarewski's 'the slap bass program'. it's simple, starts at the beginning and when you go through it you really get good basics you can build on.

there's a great practise in this, i recommend to everyone:
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-------x-x-----------
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--x-x----------------
t p t p t p t p (t is thumb, p is index finger plucking)

it's the best i know for 'muscle-memorizing' how to clearly hit the string. it's quite tough but worth learning.


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hanging low the bass comes with time: as you learn, things go easier, so you can put your bass lower and make the easy things harder but still playable. most bassists don't do it for it makes no sense except that it looks better
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Old 10-20-2006, 04:49 AM
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And then:

-----------------x---
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--x-x----------------

And then:

-----------------x-x-
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--x------------------
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Old 10-20-2006, 06:57 AM
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i don't think I've ever popped the E-string. :| Hell, depending on what I play, I'll even put a slap down on the D-string if I need to. I dunno if that's 'wrong', but it gives out the sound I'm looking for so hooray
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