Whats the hardest bass song? Whos best punk bass?

[sliceanddice]

By hard I mean:

The fastest

The most hard to finger

and the hardest combination of the two

doesn't hav 2 b punk

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and...

anyone know any punk bands with awesome bass?

Nike Dirnt is ok but better (but Greenday is cool)
don't even talk about Mark Hoppus (hes horrible)
(But I love Blink 182!!!)
or Ian Grushka (NFG)
or maybe Cone McCaslin (Sum 41)
or Sugarcults bass?
or Linkin Park's bass (they cool too!)

(you can't expect me to memerize them all)
if someone mentions hardcore punk bass I can't help but think of Sid...lol

keep in mind im looking for opinions

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[KeiBau]

This isn't what we normally think of as a bass line, but I know of a guy who was working on "Flight Of The Bumblebee". That seems quite difficult to me to do on the bass. I don't know if he ever mastered it.

[Nick Gann]

Moved to Bassists

[Against Will]

Originally Posted by sliceanddice

anyone know any punk bands with awesome bass?

Black Eyes
Minutemen
Gang of Four
Black Cross
Against Me! are not terribly unique, but they're still one of my favorites.

The most hard to finger

Tee Hee.

[ihixulu]

OK, for the "hardest" stuff you need to look at stuff by people like Jamaladeen Tacuma, Jaco, Stanley Clarke, Vic Wooten.... the jazzbos. For that matter a lot of decent speed/thrash metal bass players could eat the punkers for lunch, not that it's about that anyway.

My recommendations:

Jaco: Teen Town with Weather Report, Crisis off his Word of Mouth Album, Donna Lee from his first solo album

Stanley Clarke, Vic Wooten: wish I could tell you but I can't stand their music so someone else should hop in with their toughest parts.

Jeff Berlin: anything with Bruford

Dave Ellefson: Peace Sells by Megadeth

Cliff Burton: Ride the Lightning by Metallica

as for punk..... MATT FREEMAN

BTW and FYI, Flight of the Bumblebee was done in a most impressive and macho manner by the guy from Manowar. Which reminds me that as bad as their music was, they really could play the poop out of their instruments. hic

[basmeisje]

Best punk would be Bruce Foxton of the Jam for me.

Hardest bassline I ever played is the long middle part of Dazed and Confussed by Led Zeppelin. It's an easy riff, but by the speed and the time (round three minutes) I always get cramp when I'm only halfway, you need a lot of strengs in your hand to play that one on a Fender bass. I've had a Warwick and that made it easier (still tough though), but yeah the sound, love my Fenders...

Yvette

[superbassman2000]

Originally Posted by KeiBau

This isn't what we normally think of as a bass line, but I know of a guy who was working on "Flight Of The Bumblebee". That seems quite difficult to me to do on the bass. I don't know if he ever mastered it.

here's a guy who can play FOTBB...Scott Hubbell

http://www.scotthubbell.com/sounds.htm

[KeiBau]

Originally Posted by superbassman2000

here's a guy who can play FOTBB...Scott Hubbell

http://www.scotthubbell.com/sounds.htm

Thanks for the link. Wow!! That must have taken some practice.

[Ryan L.]

Punk??

Matt Freeman.

[chunky]

Hardest song is pretty subjective, but you'll hear a lot of technically difficult stuff here:

http://www.guitarwar.com

As for punk bassists:
That guy from nomeansno
Fat Mike fron NOFX has gotten pretty good with age (listen to the decline)
Mike Watt

[James Hart]

Originally Posted by Nick Gann

Moved to Bassists

Now the way I see it... this is a thread about speed and fingerings and racing...

<-- he thinks this is a technique thread

I think I agree

*off to Techniques*

[bryan bailey]

Play some old Chilli Peppers stuff, Flea was tough on finger style.

[Russ B.]

Try to find an album called "TOLONEN" by Finnish Jazz guitarist Jukka Tolonen. There is a track on this record called "Ramblin" with a bass part that ranks as high as anything Jaco, Stanley or Flea ever did. It is one of the best electric bass lines ever recorded. This tune is a break-neck tempo "Coltrane" style number, with an "in your face" sax player. I challenge any Bass player to try and play this tune note for note. It's very fast and yet very funky with lots of syncopation in places. What you have here is Stanley's speed and Jamerson's funk all in one tune. I found this album in the early 1970's in an import bin. After 30 years, I am still absolutely floored when I hear this Bass player. The guys name is Heikki Virtanen and he was only 18 years when the album was recorded. He appeared on a few of Jukka Tolonen's subsequent albums, but does not show the level of virtuosity he demonstrated on the first album. PS. I promise you will also be awestruck by Jukka Tolonen's guitar soloing.

[Rich600]

Rancid - Axiom
and Stu Hamms bluegrass type thing on the live in san franscisco.

[Brian S]

Originally Posted by ihixulu

Jaco: Teen Town with Weather Report, Crisis off his Word of Mouth Album, Donna Lee from his first solo album

I would add Portrait of Tracy to this list. I'm just starting to learn it and all of the harmonics and finger positions give me an incredible ache in my left forearm. This one will force you to work on both left and right hand technique. Don't expect to get this one overnight!

[Boozy]

wow.. when i think of punk i think of the exploited... not frickin blink 182.

sorry, had to speak my mind.

[denjerre]

Originally Posted by Boozy

wow.. when i think of punk i think of the exploited... not frickin blink 182.

sorry, had to speak my mind.

was thinkin' same thing... and GBH, Dead Kennedies, DRI ...

[Rich600]

I think of Rancid.

[rusmannx]

i think of bad religion.

but i second cliff burton on ride the lighting. man that guy was awesome!