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Old 07-15-2011, 01:16 AM
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I hang on his every word, whether I agree or not. He's very interesting
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I don't pretend to understand Jeff's logic there, but that's what he says. He also explains away the fingerstyle thing by saying there was no one person identified with getting fingerstyle going, so it's not imitating, but slap and fretless have highly identifiable people who are known for starting it, so that would be an imitation. I can totally dig the concept of blazing your own trail without imitating anyone else, but I think he goes a little overboard with calling everyone who does slap and fretless "imitators."
Jeff is WAY overboard and pushes buttons to get people curious about his school. It's a sales technique. He imitates evangelical preachers by using it, imo....and, by his logic, we all imitate Bill Black.

I get tired of the fretless Jaco argument. I like fretless, but couldn't care less about copying Jaco. I'm more interested in the old Police sounds, and old Stones sound.

As far as the slapping goes, I think he's full of it there too. You can be inspired to use any and all styles, without knowing who originated it...much less trying to become them.

To me it's like a buffet, if you see something you like, put it on your plate and get all you want....just don't tell me what to put on my plate!
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I'm not saying Jeff is racist or anything like that, but many friends of mine that are black have told me that there's some kind of prejudice against slap by some folks as it was/is a black dude's thing...
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allex, your friend is out of his mind. We liked it when only black people did it. It's when us white guys got hold of it and crapped it all up did we start hating it.
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I'm not saying Jeff is racist or anything like that, but many friends of mine that are black have told me that there's some kind of prejudice against slap by some folks as it was/is a black dude's thing...
That's a very racist thing for your friends to say. "Whitey hates slap cuz the black man invented slap!"
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allex, your friend is out of his mind. We liked it when only black people did it. It's when us white guys got hold of it and crapped it all up did we start hating it.
A few folks told me they felt that kind of prejudice...

This kind of stuff is HUGELY subjective and I've had my share of weird situations so I understand where they're coming from...
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since jeff is unable (because of his own actions) to come to talkbass and defend his position, this thread is closed. besides, double-necro is double-fail.
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