POD HD?

[TCube]

What do the bassists here think about the POD HDs?

[cybersnyder]

We think there are no bass models in the HD series.

[Moosehead1966]

We think we're a patient and neglected segment of the "plug in population"....

Hell, I meant "I think".

Marc

[cybersnyder]

Especially when the hardware is there, the modeling process is in place, all they need to do is have an engineer spend X hours sampling a few bass heads and cabs. Obviously, SVT / 8x10, B-15, and a more modern head. Maybe a GK 800RB or an Eden with a 4x10. I'm sure there's a little more involved but come on Line 6, throw us a bone. I feel like I've been watching a show on TV for the past four seasons and now they're not going to finish the show and just leave me hanging. Over the years I've bought a lot of Line 6 gear. A lot. And now, crickets. Hell, I'd even be happy with a statement that they're not going to release any future bass gear because the market is too small. That would be better than being ignored.

[Moosehead1966]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

Especially when the hardware is there, the modeling process is in place, all they need to do is have an engineer spend X hours sampling a few bass heads and cabs. Obviously, SVT / 8x10, B-15, and a more modern head. Maybe a GK 800RB or an Eden with a 4x10. I'm sure there's a little more involved but come on Line 6, throw us a bone. I feel like I've been watching a show on TV for the past four seasons and now they're not going to finish the show and just leave me hanging. Over the years I've bought a lot of Line 6 gear. A lot. And now, crickets. Hell, I'd even be happy with a statement that they're not going to release any future bass gear because the market is too small. That would be better than being ignored.

+1,000,000

Like really, give us up to date processing (I currently use the XT Pro rack mount, tube pre-amp flat with a VT pedal for 90% of 'old school patches'.. I do like the FXs' and a few amp tones for other active tones using my Spector and find the short-board very helpful but..

Is there NO incentive or market worthiness of investment of the time to come up with credible bass-designated products using up to date technology?..

Evidence,or lack there of, would suggest and provide information that the answer is quite apparent.

Cool, I think I'll explore the new Traynor all tube 300 watt YBA .. Made in Canada and I can talk with the techs' within minutes..

Marc

[cybersnyder]

It's frustratingly annoying that there aren't bass amps in the HD series. The HD500 has 8 simultaneous effects. I could run what would amount to two M13s and do things like distortion with unaffected blends. It's pretty much the bassists' dream rig --- except there are no bass amps. I call bullsh-t on no demand from bassists. We're willing to throw a bajillion effects to come up with weird sounds. Guitarists want a beat up tube screamer and vintage Boss effects with silver screws. We may be numerically smaller than the guitarists, but we have a much higher adoption rate for new technology.

[boynamedsuse]

If either half of a couple wants to break up, the couple breaks up. Line 6 has made it clear for the last few years that they want to break up with bass players.

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by boynamedsuse

If either half of a couple wants to break up, the couple breaks up. Line 6 has made it clear for the last few years that they want to break up with bass players.

Problem is that there aren't any other chicks to date. Maybe Fractal Audio but the dowry is steep. (Ok it's the opposite of a dowry, but you get my point.)

[boynamedsuse]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

Problem is that there aren't any other chicks to date. Maybe Fractal Audio but the dowry is steep. (Ok it's the opposite of a dowry, but you get my point.)

Yeah--kind of like attending an all-male school. The few women in the area can be pretty picky and get away with it.


I suppose the Boss GT-10B can be considered an alternative. I think it's fair to say that the Zoom and DigiTech offerings are at a lower performance point.

[DD_BigBottom]

Has anyone tried or know whether or not you can upload presets or Bass Amp/Bass Cab models from the Pod-XT or Pod-X3 to the POD-HD?

I have an XT and while the variety of tones is nice, I find myself overplaying when I'm using it (for recording) trying to get some "feel" out of the thing. I was thinking a better processor might help out with that.

Info appreciated

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by DD_BigBottom

Has anyone tried or know whether or not you can upload presets or Bass Amp/Bass Cab models from the Pod-XT or Pod-X3 to the POD-HD?

I have an XT and while the variety of tones is nice, I find myself overplaying when I'm using it (for recording) trying to get some "feel" out of the thing. I was thinking a better processor might help out with that.

Info appreciated

No. Different architectures. When you load amp / cab models really all you're doing is telling the hardware that you want, say, the SVT model with the 8x10 model. The SVT and 8x10 model has to be in the firmware. The HD series has no bass amps or cabs. Big time shame. I would love to have a HD500 as my rig.

[DD_BigBottom]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

No. Different architectures. When you load amp / cab models really all you're doing is telling the hardware that you want, say, the SVT model with the 8x10 model. The SVT and 8x10 model has to be in the firmware. The HD series has no bass amps or cabs. Big time shame. I would love to have a HD500 as my rig.

I was afraid that it might be something like that. I guess our buds at Line 6 forgot (or don't care) about one of the most basic rules of manufacturing - Backwards Compatibility!

Hopefully another manufacturer will want the market share Line 6 is leaving behind and come out with a good modeling type bass amp emulator/processor. Something with a flash memory card slot would be really nice.

Thanks for the info

[richrenken]

Originally Posted by cybersnyder

It's frustratingly annoying that there aren't bass amps in the HD series. The HD500 has 8 simultaneous effects. I could run what would amount to two M13s and do things like distortion with unaffected blends. It's pretty much the bassists' dream rig --- except there are no bass amps. I call bullsh-t on no demand from bassists. We're willing to throw a bajillion effects to come up with weird sounds. Guitarists want a beat up tube screamer and vintage Boss effects with silver screws. We may be numerically smaller than the guitarists, but we have a much higher adoption rate for new technology.

+1 zillion. And I work here.

We are working on Bass Amp models. I know it is frustrating but I cannot talk about specifics of when we will have them in an update. It is a federal law. We have not forgotten about us, remember, I am a bass player. I am going to have a POD HD Pro in a rack with a Crown Power amp into one of my LowDown 410 cabs. Rock!!

[richrenken]

Originally Posted by DD_BigBottom

I was afraid that it might be something like that. I guess our buds at Line 6 forgot (or don't care) about one of the most basic rules of manufacturing - Backwards Compatibility!

Hopefully another manufacturer will want the market share Line 6 is leaving behind and come out with a good modeling type bass amp emulator/processor. Something with a flash memory card slot would be really nice.

Thanks for the info

We haven't left us behind. But guys, we are a smaller market.

That said, hang in there for the HD but I know bass players using it with the Bassman model and the Hiwatt model. Both good bass amps in real life.

Now you guys are acting like we don't do gear for bass players. let me do the list.

G90, G50, G30, M13, M9, M5, POD HD, POD Farm.

But, yes, still, we can do better.

[cybersnyder]

Originally Posted by richrenken

+1 zillion. And I work here.

We are working on Bass Amp models. I know it is frustrating but I cannot talk about specifics of when we will have them in an update. It is a federal law. We have not forgotten about us, remember, I am a bass player. I am going to have a POD HD Pro in a rack with a Crown Power amp into one of my LowDown 410 cabs. Rock!!

Just knowing that it's being considered is good enough. I'll keep hope alive. I'm going 100% direct lately and a POD HD500 would be a killer bass rig.

[richrenken]

+1 Totally

[clsmooth]

Glad I hedged my bets and bought the HD 500 back in May!!!!!