Quality over quantity

[cheapbasslovin]

I think a BDDI / Tone Hammer style product with an interface similar to one of the graphic sections of the M13 would kill. Numerous amp models, 6 knobs per model, and maybe a few auxiliaries for line/ instrument output and the like. Simple, easy to use, versatile. I feel the M13 interface really fits into the 'just enough, not too much' mantra.

Edit:::Cab modeling optional, not always on.

[wyliee]

Hi Rich (and everyone else reading)

Is there a reason the Dimension D and Tri-Chorus models are only available on the MM4? I've dug through the Line6 site and it looks like none of the other products, Vetta II and X3 line included, have those two models.

Prior to switching over to an X3 based rig, I used the MM4 and a herd of pedals. The Dimension D and Tri-chorus were two of my most commonly used mod effects and I miss them!

Any chance of adding those two models to an FX pack?

[ataraxia]

I am currently borrowing a friends pod x3 live to do all my recording (guitar, bass, and on occasion put a bit of the vox through it). It works great for it (especially for guitar using the dual rig output and panning it), but like a lot of people have said there is a ton of options, a couple of great ones (I personally like the mesa amp sim for bass tone) a couple of usable ones, and a bunch of stuff that is close to useless. If you want to hear a recording where all the guitars and bass was done direct through a pod x3 check out: www.myspace.com/ataraxia1 It's a shame I have to give it back... I will definitely be picking up a pod x3 (or live or pro) sometime in the near future because of the great recording options.

My rhythm guitarist uses a spyder IV head with the large footswitch and it sounds great at shows and practice. I have a spyder III 30 watt practice amp for writing and jamming.

I recently tried out 2 of the smaller combo lowdown series amps, and was very impressed by the tone and options on them. I ordered the HD400 about a week later.

My impressions and reasons why I got it:

Clean: very close to my current tone with my nemesis na620 which I love, and I can nail the tone at any volume I want.

Grind: Occasionally I need to fill in the rhythm while both guitars are doing leads, or on the occasion that our singer puts down his guitar to focus on singing. With a little bit of work I can get a nice thick distortion sound to fill in. This also allows me to take my ibanez phat hed off my pedal board.

Rock: It can definitely get pretty close to the classic svt tone which'll be nice to use to get some variety on my tone, and will make it easier to fill in if my friend's cover bands or rock bands need me to.

Synth: I don't have a plan where I can use this immediately, but I'm definitely working on it. I had a lot of fun fooling around with the channel while I was in GC.

Effects: I guess I'm the odd man out here, where I actually enjoy having the couple of effects on the amp itself that I can use with my 4 channel foot switch. I like the octave and it gives me the ability to take my oc3 off my board, the filter and chorus are fun to play with, and the compressor works very well and is allowing me to take my boss limiter enhancer off my board... the only effect thats left for me is phaser... which I really wish they had instead of the filter.

I also like the headphone out, the line out with the simulated cabinet, and the fact that I can use my footswitch with my spyder III, my bass head, and my pod x3 (once I get that).


The turn offs:
The lack of 1/4 inch speaker outs. Speakon only kinda sucks because I have about 4-5 quarter inch speaker cables, and I had no speakon cables prior to purchasing the amp. This also means if I lose my cable or there's a problem with it I might not be able to borrow one from another band or bandmate (which means buying a couple backups).

The other thing I really would've like to see on this would be an effects loop.

The goofy light up channel buttons... if theyre going to light up, at least make them a cool color like green or purple... no yellow.

Brit: just couldn't think of a use for it... If I want gritty tone I'll use the grind, If I want a cutting rock tone I'll use the Rock

R & B: I tried playing with this tone a bunch... could not find a usable sound.

I really would have liked to see the Mesa amp sim from the pod on it instead of the Brit or the R&B.

[richrenken]

Originally Posted by ataraxia

I am currently borrowing a friends pod x3 live to do all my recording (guitar, bass, and on occasion put a bit of the vox through it). It works great for it (especially for guitar using the dual rig output and panning it), but like a lot of people have said there is a ton of options, a couple of great ones (I personally like the mesa amp sim for bass tone) a couple of usable ones, and a bunch of stuff that is close to useless. If you want to hear a recording where all the guitars and bass was done direct through a pod x3 check out: www.myspace.com/ataraxia1 It's a shame I have to give it back... I will definitely be picking up a pod x3 (or live or pro) sometime in the near future because of the great recording options.

My rhythm guitarist uses a spyder IV head with the large footswitch and it sounds great at shows and practice. I have a spyder III 30 watt practice amp for writing and jamming.

I recently tried out 2 of the smaller combo lowdown series amps, and was very impressed by the tone and options on them. I ordered the HD400 about a week later.

My impressions and reasons why I got it:

Clean: very close to my current tone with my nemesis na620 which I love, and I can nail the tone at any volume I want.

Grind: Occasionally I need to fill in the rhythm while both guitars are doing leads, or on the occasion that our singer puts down his guitar to focus on singing. With a little bit of work I can get a nice thick distortion sound to fill in. This also allows me to take my ibanez phat hed off my pedal board.

Rock: It can definitely get pretty close to the classic svt tone which'll be nice to use to get some variety on my tone, and will make it easier to fill in if my friend's cover bands or rock bands need me to.

Synth: I don't have a plan where I can use this immediately, but I'm definitely working on it. I had a lot of fun fooling around with the channel while I was in GC.

Effects: I guess I'm the odd man out here, where I actually enjoy having the couple of effects on the amp itself that I can use with my 4 channel foot switch. I like the octave and it gives me the ability to take my oc3 off my board, the filter and chorus are fun to play with, and the compressor works very well and is allowing me to take my boss limiter enhancer off my board... the only effect thats left for me is phaser... which I really wish they had instead of the filter.

I also like the headphone out, the line out with the simulated cabinet, and the fact that I can use my footswitch with my spyder III, my bass head, and my pod x3 (once I get that).


The turn offs:
The lack of 1/4 inch speaker outs. Speakon only kinda sucks because I have about 4-5 quarter inch speaker cables, and I had no speakon cables prior to purchasing the amp. This also means if I lose my cable or there's a problem with it I might not be able to borrow one from another band or bandmate (which means buying a couple backups).

The other thing I really would've like to see on this would be an effects loop.

The goofy light up channel buttons... if theyre going to light up, at least make them a cool color like green or purple... no yellow.

Brit: just couldn't think of a use for it... If I want gritty tone I'll use the grind, If I want a cutting rock tone I'll use the Rock

R & B: I tried playing with this tone a bunch... could not find a usable sound.

I really would have liked to see the Mesa amp sim from the pod on it instead of the Brit or the R&B.

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Good stuff. Not everything is for everyone in any piece of gear.

Speakon is pretty popular but I know what you mean. We had a very good reason for Speakon that changed toward the end of development. To late to change for now.

I see an effects loop in the future. You could log that and other feature requests over at our website. http://line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback

The Brit distorted is for that Cream kind of distortion or Rush type thing. Play a Ricky into Brit slightly distorted and play Roundabout.

R&B has to be there, it is probably the second most recorded sound in bass history.

[ataraxia]

tried to insert a picture, but it just isn't working... if you're interested check out www.myspace.com/ataraxia1 and check out the equipment folder in pictures.

Finally got to open it up and take it to high volumes. When the channels are programmed right with channel volumes and gain, 1/3 master volume is enough to cut through at practice with a drummer, vocalist, a guitarist using a line 6 spyder IV halfstack, and a guitarist using a digitech rack processor into a 300 watt power amp. at 1/2 volume things really start to move. I really can't see a situation where I would need to push the volume higher, and this is using the 400 watt head.

At loud volumes the modes that really shine are the:

rock, which cuts through beautifully but still maintains a nice bottom end... It definitely allows me to get close to that black album metallica tone.

Grind, which takes a bit longer to set well, but after a little fiddling can really fill out the tone and it allows me to beef up the rhythm when both guitars are doing leads.

-the compressor is the greatest I've ever used compared to 3 pedals and 4 amp based, and it really shines at high volumes. The octave effect also sounds amazing through a 4x10... so much nicer then when I played with it through the combo.


The disappointments on the head at high volume compared to the combo:

Clean... I don't know why, I love the tone at low volumes, and I love it on the combos... but played alongside a band, and at high volumes, it just feels like its missing something... maybe I'm eqing it wrong or something.

- and still realllly wish it had phaser instead of either the envelop filter or chorus... if it did I would definitely take my phase 90 off my board and just use a line 6 head and the footswitch... and keep my x2 wireless in the rack instead of on the board.

[blendermassacre]

I realize I've said this before, but something that worked as well as the duoverb would 7make me gas to no end. If I could blend a dirty AMPEG SVT VR with a clean DB750 sound and have it come out of a 2x12 neo combo or a head, I would love it. That little under rated piece of gear is the best use of modeling technology I've ever seen. Being able to switch between closed back, ported, and open back cabs is cool (when translated to bass, ported or not) as well as the gain structures set in the high gain settings are just killer. Mixed with a shortboard, you wouldn't need a dirt effect, because you can switch back between a clean signal and a dirty signal. Replace the reverb with a compressor, and you've got a killer bass amp.

[richrenken]

Originally Posted by ataraxia

tried to insert a picture, but it just isn't working... if you're interested check out www.myspace.com/ataraxia1 and check out the equipment folder in pictures.

Finally got to open it up and take it to high volumes. When the channels are programmed right with channel volumes and gain, 1/3 master volume is enough to cut through at practice with a drummer, vocalist, a guitarist using a line 6 spyder IV halfstack, and a guitarist using a digitech rack processor into a 300 watt power amp. at 1/2 volume things really start to move. I really can't see a situation where I would need to push the volume higher, and this is using the 400 watt head.

At loud volumes the modes that really shine are the:

rock, which cuts through beautifully but still maintains a nice bottom end... It definitely allows me to get close to that black album metallica tone.

Grind, which takes a bit longer to set well, but after a little fiddling can really fill out the tone and it allows me to beef up the rhythm when both guitars are doing leads.

-the compressor is the greatest I've ever used compared to 3 pedals and 4 amp based, and it really shines at high volumes. The octave effect also sounds amazing through a 4x10... so much nicer then when I played with it through the combo.


The disappointments on the head at high volume compared to the combo:

Clean... I don't know why, I love the tone at low volumes, and I love it on the combos... but played alongside a band, and at high volumes, it just feels like its missing something... maybe I'm eqing it wrong or something.

- and still realllly wish it had phaser instead of either the envelop filter or chorus... if it did I would definitely take my phase 90 off my board and just use a line 6 head and the footswitch... and keep my x2 wireless in the rack instead of on the board.

The clean is modeled after an Eden model. It sits well with more kind of fusion/solo bass kind of situations. I find all these types of clean amps to sound good when you are rocking by yourself but with heavy guitars for heavy pop to rock to metal, they just get lost because they are voice for super low end and bright highs. So if there is nothing competing with that in the band it sound great but with Rock etc, the low end disappears into mush next to the kick and guitars, and the high end goes with the cymbals and guitars. So the low mid punch of the the models that have SVT are killer. Now if you want a cleaner thing for rock, try the R&B with the drive up around noon. I love it.

[richrenken]

Originally Posted by blendermassacre

I realize I've said this before, but something that worked as well as the duoverb would 7make me gas to no end. If I could blend a dirty AMPEG SVT VR with a clean DB750 sound and have it come out of a 2x12 neo combo or a head, I would love it. That little under rated piece of gear is the best use of modeling technology I've ever seen. Being able to switch between closed back, ported, and open back cabs is cool (when translated to bass, ported or not) as well as the gain structures set in the high gain settings are just killer. Mixed with a shortboard, you wouldn't need a dirt effect, because you can switch back between a clean signal and a dirty signal. Replace the reverb with a compressor, and you've got a killer bass amp.

I hear you. Can you submit that over at our website at this link? That way I can officially log it in as a request.

http://line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback

[blendermassacre]

Originally Posted by richrenken

I hear you. Can you submit that over at our website at this link? That way I can officially log it in as a request.

http://line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback

Done and done.

p.s. if my idea gets used, I'll take an m13, thank you. haha (just kidding...kind of)