Relay G50

Barisaxman · #1 07-23-2010, 09:45 AM

One night into using my new G50, and all I can say is WOW! I'm extremely pleased with this purchase so far. As long as no durability problems crop up down the road I'll be enjoying this unit for a long long time. Nicely done with this product Line 6 guys.

Line6Aaron · #2 07-23-2010, 03:56 PM

I'll be sure to pass your kudos along to our wireless team! I assume it sounds great to you and has been easy to use...

Relay is especially well suited for bass guitar signals, as it has a flat frequency response down to 10 hz. Since we can cover a sub contra bass player's low C# (at 17 hz) I can be fairly confident that you'll be happy with how good the "B" string of a five string will sound with Relay (your low B growls at 31 hz)

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Originally Posted by Barisaxman

One night into using my new G50, and all I can say is WOW! I'm extremely pleased with this purchase so far. As long as no durability problems crop up down the road I'll be enjoying this unit for a long long time. Nicely done with this product Line 6 guys.

amelnick · #3 07-31-2010, 03:07 PM

I have the G90 and it is a huge improvement over the x2 version. Solid constuction, better connector on the transmitter and no wall wart!

Great job line 6

grumpyjfc · #4 08-04-2010, 04:31 PM

X2 on the G50. I was VERY hesitant about wireless and finally decided to take the plunge. What a fantastic product. They are right about the low B: I play 18volt Modulus Flea basses and it is flawless!!

Johnny Crab · #5 08-04-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barisaxman

One night into using my new G50, and all I can say is WOW! I'm extremely pleased with this purchase so far. As long as no durability problems crop up down the road I'll be enjoying this unit for a long long time. Nicely done with this product Line 6 guys.

+1
Thanks so much for this wireless!
Went from an "outlawed" EW172 to this.
Besides the great response, the readouts are VERY useful. Last night I had batteries in from the previous LONG gig facing another 4+ hours. One song before our 2nd break I glance down at the G50 sitting next to my BassPODXTLive and the battery strength LED went RED. On break I recycled some "one gig" AA's from our guitarist's Variax and finished the night. GREAT to have that function and be able to see your battery life at a glance.

Thanks again Line 6.

johnforr · #6 08-05-2010, 01:04 PM

I recently bought a Relay G30, and I have to say I'm blown away by it! I have owned 2 non-digital wireless systems in the past, (a long time ago) and this is FAR better. I know it sounds like marketing rubbish, but it really is clearer than a cable, & all bass frequencies are present & correct.

On other forums I have seen concerns over the plastic construction - particularly of the battery compartment door - and it does look a bit flimsy, but I've decided to only touch the door when I have to, & so far so good.

Great product!! Thanks Line 6!

Now bring back the Variax bass!!.... or better still put the Variax capabilities in a stomp box.... now THERE'S an idea...

JimmyM · #7 08-06-2010, 07:38 PM

once my x2's break down, i shall be getting relays. absolutely superb wirelesses.

now to find that sledgehammer...

**5stringwonder** · #8 08-06-2010, 07:53 PM

Same here. Waiting for my X2-Plus to crap out so that I can get a Relay..

warnergt · #9 08-31-2010, 04:46 PM

I borrowed a Relay G50 for a week and I have to agree that it is really
nice. I was curious about the delay that it introduces so I looked up the
specifications. Oddly, they don't specify this parameter. I found a few
threads discussing this unit and its delay. Some Line 6 folks indicated
that the delay was 4 milliseconds. That is a very low delay. I couldn't
help verifying it for myself. I hooked up an oscilloscope and measured it.
My measurements confirmed a 4 millisecond delay.

This unit has great range and had no effect tonally -- exactly what you
would want. I have only one mild criticism. It appears that the
transmitter is harder on batteries that I would have guessed. I wouldn't
use this for a gig without a fresh set of transmitter batteries. It will get
you through that but it probably wouldn't get you through a second gig.

Now, I don't know how other wireless units compare for battery
longevity so this may be typical results. Everything else about this
unit is absolutely great.

Line6Aaron · #10 09-02-2010, 02:54 PM

Hi WarnerGT -- we worked hard to improve the battery life of the Relay units, including the G50, to 8 hours of life.

Obviously it depends on the length of the two gigs, but we are hoping that 8 hours gets most people through more than two gigs.

Were you getting significantly less than 8 hours of battery life out of the G50 you borrowed?

Thanks again for the feedback!

-Aaron

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Originally Posted by warnergt

I borrowed a Relay G50 for a week and I have to agree that it is really
nice. I was curious about the delay that it introduces so I looked up the
specifications. Oddly, they don't specify this parameter. I found a few
threads discussing this unit and its delay. Some Line 6 folks indicated
that the delay was 4 milliseconds. That is a very low delay. I couldn't
help verifying it for myself. I hooked up an oscilloscope and measured it.
My measurements confirmed a 4 millisecond delay.

This unit has great range and had no effect tonally -- exactly what you
would want. I have only one mild criticism. It appears that the
transmitter is harder on batteries that I would have guessed. I wouldn't
use this for a gig without a fresh set of transmitter batteries. It will get
you through that but it probably wouldn't get you through a second gig.

Now, I don't know how other wireless units compare for battery
longevity so this may be typical results. Everything else about this
unit is absolutely great.

newwavefrank · #11 09-04-2010, 04:55 PM

Has anyone used the G90? Is the transmitter metal or plastic?

Frankiebass59 · #12 12-04-2010, 02:23 PM

Well you guys won't have long to wait for your X2's to fail and then when you get a G-50 it shouldn't be long for that one to fail as well. Had the X2, it failed, the TX unit had input jack issues and then died altogether. Line 6 was nice enough and sent me a replacement under warranty. I was told all the issues were addressed with the new G series so I ran out and bought one. That was in June. It also died, late October. Sent it in for warranty replacement. 5 weeks later here I am still without a wireless, and according to Line 6 it was expedited! I'm a working musician that plays every weekend in a party band, I'm extermely careful with my equipment. I even made a padded case for my wireless units and I don't bang things up. I love the way they sound but as far as reliability goes I'm not impressed. And the warranty turn around time is horrible. I guess you need to invest in 2 units in order to have a backup. Not a cheap proposition for a non-pro. I have an old Samson VHF wireless from the 80's that's still going strong.
Not really trying to flame although it sure reads that way. Just hoping to share my experience with others in the forum to let them see the flip side.
There's nothing to be done about it at this point, I'm probably going to give the G-50 another try and hope for the best whenever I get it back.

Washishimi · #13 12-10-2010, 08:31 AM

FWIW, I had an issue where my G50 cut out on me (transmitter shut off). I thought the batteries were dead. Turns out, the metal peices that the batteries sit on (not the battery door side - the bottom portion on the inside) had pushed down over time causing the batteries to not have full contact between the battery door, and the bottom. So I reached in there, and bent them back up a bit. Haven't had an issue since. I've got over 80 shows on the G50, and that was the only issue. When I had the old X2, I also had the transmitter jack issues.

Frankiebass59 · #14 12-10-2010, 10:22 AM

Well just to clarify, when I said the tx unti died, I meant that it no longer transmitted. It turned on and as I'm a technician by trade I did all the basic troubleshooting and only engaged the manufacturer as a last resort. I realize no matter how responsive they are it's better to solve the issue and not lose the use of the unit while it's out for repair.
Washishimi is spot on! Many times there is a simple easy fix.
Thanks.

BassMonstrum · #15 12-13-2010, 04:48 AM

I really want a G50, but sadly there's a new bill in Norway that is about to get passed; the frequencies used for wireless transmitters are being sold to the mobilenetworks, meaning that all current wireless equipment will have to be replaced... at least, that's how I understood it.

BassmanDk · #16 12-25-2010, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BassMonstrum

I really want a G50, but sadly there's a new bill in Norway that is about to get passed; the frequencies used for wireless transmitters are being sold to the mobilenetworks, meaning that all current wireless equipment will have to be replaced... at least, that's how I understood it.

We have a similar bill passed in Denmark. But it is the 800 to 820mhz that's affected, the freq. that's used for normal analogue wireless. The Line6 G series use the 2.4 GHz band. So Line6 products are NOT affected!!

BassMonstrum · #17 12-25-2010, 02:45 PM

I've actually done A LOT of research about the bill and found out that the 2.4 GHz bans is one of the few frequencies that are not affected... phew. I guess I'll get me a Relay next month then!

logicman69 · #18 12-26-2010, 08:40 AM

Sold a few of the G30's to people and they are loving them. I'm looking to upgrade myself sometime this month. I have the X2 right now and I get almost no range out of it (typicly 10-15ft). Has anyone else had this sort of issue with the X2?

G_FUNK Music · #19 01-17-2011, 01:02 PM

This unit (G50) is a wonderful product! I wish it was available ten years ago. I am trying to find a way I can intergrate it into the rear cavity on my bass, with the display/power/mute buttons on the front of the guitar. I play a 5 string G&L and there isn't much room in there, but with time I am sure I will come up with the answer. How GREAT would THAT be?!

georgestrings · #20 01-21-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankiebass59

Well you guys won't have long to wait for your X2's to fail and then when you get a G-50 it shouldn't be long for that one to fail as well. Had the X2, it failed, the TX unit had input jack issues and then died altogether. Line 6 was nice enough and sent me a replacement under warranty. I was told all the issues were addressed with the new G series so I ran out and bought one. That was in June. It also died, late October. Sent it in for warranty replacement. 5 weeks later here I am still without a wireless, and according to Line 6 it was expedited! I'm a working musician that plays every weekend in a party band, I'm extermely careful with my equipment. I even made a padded case for my wireless units and I don't bang things up. I love the way they sound but as far as reliability goes I'm not impressed. And the warranty turn around time is horrible. I guess you need to invest in 2 units in order to have a backup. Not a cheap proposition for a non-pro. I have an old Samson VHF wireless from the 80's that's still going strong.
Not really trying to flame although it sure reads that way. Just hoping to share my experience with others in the forum to let them see the flip side.
There's nothing to be done about it at this point, I'm probably going to give the G-50 another try and hope for the best whenever I get it back.

I don't know what's going on with your gear, but I've had an XDR-95 for about 3 years now, and it's been stone reliable - with an average of about 75 gigs per year...

- georgestrings