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Old 04-06-2006, 02:00 AM
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the abosolute basics of walking plz

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im joinin my schools jazz band next year to help me learn a different style of music then im used to (metal) but thats besides the point, I was talking to the teacher and I forget what she called but im going to see the chord and walk, (walking may seem kind of obvious to you but all my teacher has been showin me is notation and scales) so can anywon explain to me the basics of walking or give me a link explainin it
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im joinin my schools jazz band next year to help me learn a different style of music then im used to (metal) but thats besides the point, I was talking to the teacher and I forget what she called but im going to see the chord and walk, (walking may seem kind of obvious to you but all my teacher has been showin me is notation and scales) so can anywon explain to me the basics of walking or give me a link explainin it
The best thing you could do if you can't find a teacher that specialises in jazz is to get a book on it. Ed Freidland's Building Walking Basslines is an excellent starting point.

Also, get listening to jazz.

Here's a couple of links for you...

Bass Line Construction: Target Approach

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/attach...6&d=1141227330
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:35 AM
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any jazz songs in particular? or just any...

i also play/listen to metal but want to learn walking bass lines and just want to hear some good examples

but thanx for the links, ill defenetely be reading them!
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It's always the same basic principles, whatever the song - the Chris Fitzgerald thread that dlloyd linked to first, is probaly the best start!
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:18 AM
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It's always the same basic principles, whatever the song - the Chris Fitzgerald thread that dlloyd linked to first, is probaly the best start!
Yep, I wish I'd been able to read it a long time ago.
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any jazz songs in particular? or just any...
Yep, any that has a walking bassline. Transcribe the bassline, paying attention to the changes and try and work out why the bassist is playing the notes he's playing.

A good one to start with is Autumn Leaves on Cannonball Adderly's Somethin' Else. Sam Jones' bassline is great, and it shows how effective following a few simple principles can be.
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+1 on Ed Friedland's book.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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At the beginner level, it's all about this:

Maj7 - Ionion
Dominant7 - Mixo
-7 - Dorian (Aeolian if it's the VI in the key)
-7b5 - Locrian
+7 - Lydian

etc etc etc. Then play all those arpeggios, start using approach notes, and once you know that shizz, you can start thinking about how you're feeling the tunes.
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I have no problems recommending Todd Johnson's Walking Bass DVD. It's quite good and very well explained and he has his own forum here on TalkBass where you can ask questions if you have them.

http://www.toddjohnsonmusic.com/RECORDINGS/22641-4.html

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Lessons/Articles...

I just finished reading a very thorough introduction to demystifying the walking bassline. And where did I find that article?

RIGHT HERE!
Walking Bass Line Myths Exposed!

It is quite useful and I plan to start putting the lessons described in that article to use while I am busy rediscovering the Jazz Standards!

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Old 04-07-2006, 03:50 AM
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I think we're wasting our time here - the original poster has posted exactly the same question again!!
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i saw that as well.
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Listen to Tommy Shannon playing with Johnny Winter or SRV.
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I think we're wasting our time here - the original poster has posted exactly the same question again!!
No, actually you're not. I'm finding the advise very helpful. I'm sure other lurkers are, too.
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As the other thread was closed, I've re-posted my thoughts into this thread. I'm sure it was an honest mistake posting the same thread twice.

IMHO, Walking Bass is all about ascending and descending chord patterns, and variations of the two.

for example, the first bar you could walking up the chord pattern (ascending), and the following bar, walk down the chord pattern (descending).
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As a member of the lurker-learner community, I give this thread my clandestine stamp of approval. Yes, I actually stamped it. No, the ink is there, it's just extremely light-colored. I'll go back to hiding now.
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three words: MASTER YOUR MODES.

you must know your modes inside/out if you are to walk a bassline. my teacher explained to me how to 'walk' and it is much tougher than i initially thought.

basically, you have a given chord. you need to get to the next chord. walking is how you will get to the next chord. you need to walk on the modes to the next chord. sounds simple, will take me many, many months and years to learn.

another four words: Ron Carter, Charles Mingus.
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