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12-02-2004, 04:16 PM
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Guess what my theory teacher assigned me for one night.
Write all 3 forms of all 15 minor scales ascendeing and descending. Then indicate half steps and raised 6ths and 7ths...
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12-02-2004, 04:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denton, TX | | | What? You'll just writing the same thing over 30 times with a different starting position.
Fire him/her.
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12-02-2004, 04:33 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kingston, NY/Middletown, CT | | | exactumondo...45 times though. hes a cool dude though. Just a homework man |
12-02-2004, 04:36 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tampa Bay | | I thought id give you a hand since this thread doesnt quite fit in Off Topic as is:
These are minor scales: 
These are major scales:  |
12-02-2004, 05:01 PM
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12-03-2004, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by werbo1 Guess what my theory teacher assigned me for one night.
Write all 3 forms of all 15 minor scales ascendeing and descending. Then indicate half steps and raised 6ths and 7ths...
sigh | That's what, 15 minutes work? |
12-03-2004, 03:20 AM
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12-03-2004, 06:09 AM
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12-10-2004, 03:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central Florida | | | scales r incredibly important, but i dont c the need to write the same pattern with different notes over and over again. maybe he should have made u play the same pattern on your bass on different spots on the fretboard over and over again and write them out once.
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12-10-2004, 04:43 PM
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12-13-2004, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by werbo1 Guess what my theory teacher assigned me for one night.
Write all 3 forms of all 15 minor scales ascendeing and descending. Then indicate half steps and raised 6ths and 7ths... | Sorry, I think I must be missing something here..
There are 15 minor scales?!
Also, what do you mean by "3 forms"? |
12-13-2004, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard K Sorry, I think I must be missing something here..
There are 15 minor scales?!
Also, what do you mean by "3 forms"? |
I assumed he meant Harmonic, Melodic and Natural, in all keys...
maybe he wants him to do enharmonic keys like C#/Db ?? and maybe that's where the 15 comes from... C, and 7 each of the 'flat' keys, 7 each of the 'sharp' keys???
it could be good brainwork because you have to deal with nasty things like double-flats etc..
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12-13-2004, 09:16 AM
| | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Scotland | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by cowsgomoo I assumed he meant Harmonic, Melodic and Natural, in all keys...
maybe he wants him to do enharmonic keys like C#/Db ?? and maybe that's where the 15 comes from... C, and 7 each of the 'flat' keys, 7 each of the 'sharp' keys???
it could be good brainwork because you have to deal with nasty things like double-flats etc.. | That's what I took it to mean.
Natural, harmonic and melodic of C#, F#, B, E, A, D, G, C, F, Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb and Cb.
Definately a useful exercise, deals with all sorts of theoretical concepts, such as the cycles of fourths and fifths, key signatures, scale construction and intervals... |
12-13-2004, 09:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK | | | Ah, I see. The description baffled me completely - I've never heard natural, harmonic and melodic described as different 'forms' of minor scale before. I've also never heard anyone refer to "15 keys" either, every day's a school day! |
12-14-2004, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard K Ah, I see. The description baffled me completely - I've never heard natural, harmonic and melodic described as different 'forms' of minor scale before. I've also never heard anyone refer to "15 keys" either, every day's a school day! | There's way more if you're want to start thinking about double flats and sharps, but it's kind of academic for diatonic scales. When C# is enharmonic for Db, you might as well think in terms of having 5 flats in the key signature rather than 7 sharps. |
12-14-2004, 08:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK | | | Yeah, I see.
In some cases I think exercises like this are theory for theory's sake, but on the other hand, I've played from charts that move into Cb for a few bars, and C# is common, as is Gb.
I guess it's important to know the theory so you dont get thrown by a chart piece of music that does go into Cb, etc. |
12-21-2004, 11:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boulder. CO | | | Wow! Let us know how that turns out (when your done in 10 minutes). More importantly write them out umpteen dozen times and use flashcards to test yourself whenever your bored. |
12-21-2004, 12:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kingston, NY/Middletown, CT | | | 10 minutes!? ugh...took me an hour and a half and i know all the key signatures pretty well. Two clefs per that like a baillion scales |
12-21-2004, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonorous What? You'll just writing the same thing over 30 times with a different starting position.
Fire him/her. | Heh, but what about harmonic and melodic minor then? Check out the modes in those scales, boy! |
12-21-2004, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dlloyd There's way more if you're want to start thinking about double flats and sharps, but it's kind of academic for diatonic scales. When C# is enharmonic for Db, you might as well think in terms of having 5 flats in the key signature rather than 7 sharps. | As a full-time student of music theory, I'm one of the few musicians I know personally who don't complain about enharmonic scales. They have a great deal of practical application when composing or reading music.
Example: If you're changing keys in, say, an interval of an ascending minor 3rd, starting on F, you're going to go F to Ab to Cb, not F to Ab to B. Ab to B is an augmented 2nd, not a minor 3rd, even though they sound the same. It's very academic, yes, but it helps you keep track of what the music is doing.
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