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Old 02-06-2011, 04:57 PM
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AMAZING Jeff Berlin Lesson excerpt

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This is a truly amazing lesson. How to create GREAT solos with very basic musical concepts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gldbzjp0IG8
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Excellent lesson, I really liked the 'openess' he demonstrated with the 3rd's+7th's and the 9th's+5th's, nice tonality. I found the 9th's+11th's a bit of a stretch harmonically (but 4ths/11th's can be), but a great lesson in breaking out of the 'root note' syndrome and very musical.

I like Jeff, he is a 'straight up' cat, even back in the day, away from the instrument, I learned a lot from what he had to say in interview's in Bass Player and the written related clinic's (before the 'tinternet). Great educator, I personally like the reductionism approach, distil into essence, no BS, which I think everyone is aware of here by the sounds, he don't do it, I can respect that.

Thanks for the link Sir, very enjoyable and informative
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Old 02-07-2011, 02:31 AM
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Thumbs up

Great clip and sweet playing.
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Great vid... thanks so much.

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nice - thanks for the link
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Great contribution, thanks for the info!

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Old 02-07-2011, 12:49 PM
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Great clip and sweet playing.
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really good lesson
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:02 PM
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Very useful lesson!!!! Thanks for posting this, Mike!!!

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Old 02-07-2011, 01:38 PM
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Man, he really brings it down to earth, doesn't he? I am going to be spending some quality time on youtube in the near future!
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:41 PM
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Thanks for posting that Mike.
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:44 PM
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Jeff is fabulous...

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This is a truly amazing lesson. How to create GREAT solos with very basic musical concepts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gldbzjp0IG8
and let's hear it for sharp 11's! Now, let's try to bring back the flat 13 nomenclature for that lovely dominant chord and get rid of the bass-player-befuddling #5 concept...it's not a sharp 5 because it's ABOVE THE 7TH!!!!

Jeez, don't they teach traditional harmony at all anymore...? Rules are there for a reason...



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Old 02-07-2011, 04:16 PM
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Sweet! Very timely. I just had a lesson 3 Saturdays ago where the instructor introduced the concept of doing 3rds & 7ths over a ii-V-I-vi progression.

Maybe I shouldn't have *fired* that instructor at the end of January after all!
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:21 PM
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Good useful material there for sure.

Hey Cameron,
+5 for me, as there is no natural 5 in the chord, so why call it b13?
(I just play the root anyway, so I don't care what you call it! j/k)
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Great stuff. Watched some more of his videos as well and really enjoy listening to what he has to say, thank you for posting this link!
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:50 PM
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great lesson! I like the finger snapping. kinda reminds me of... a metronome!
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:10 PM
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+5 for me, as there is no natural 5 in the chord, so why call it b13?
Because an augmented 7th chord and a dominant 7th b13 aren't the same chord.
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Golly I'm sorry I replied, I really hope I'm not going to get schooled on chord theory now. . . : )
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:50 AM
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Who cares how the chord is called. If you can hear that the #5/b13 can resolve up and down it doesn't matter (unless you want to look smart on a bass forum).

Jeff's lesson is ok though not very special, this is all common knowledge for every jazz piano player. It's good to practice to hear these voices within a chord, but just spelling out the chords can sound cheesy very fast. Janek Gwizdala has got some video's up on his site on the same subject, but focusing more on being creative with this material (which I find a lot more interesting).
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wow...just killed an hour in what seemed like 5 minutes...
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