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02-14-2010, 05:04 PM
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I'm on to composing my second song for my GCSE exam, i'm aiming for an A*.
The name of the exam is Popular music since 1960, so it's fairly open, taking into account genre. Criteria is that is that it must require: a riff, lyrics, and have a song structure of verse, verse, bridge, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus, outro.
I was having a discussion with my music teacher whether or not an arpeggio counts as a riff, using examples such as the beatles, sting and the police and REM. She retorted that she didn't believe an an arpeggio could count as a riff, as it would be more of a broken chord.
Please discuss.
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02-14-2010, 05:09 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Genz Benz Amplification | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nashville | | | Well, any linear series of notes could technically be considered an arpeggio, since the simultaneous sounding of any 2 or more notes constitutes a chord of some kind. So by her logic there is no such thing as a riff. | 
02-14-2010, 06:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Reynoldsburg Ohio | | | Hmm-I am thinking an arpeggio must stay strictly within a chordal boundry. Cutting across to another chord makes it NOT an arpeggio but a .......riff.
Lets hope someone smarter than I am about such things chimes in and sets us straight.
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02-14-2010, 07:57 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweden | | | Arpeggio is a broken chord... Sure you could use an arpeggio as a riff, a riff is a couple of notes played repeatedly and if it happens to be an arpeggio, itīs still a riff. Itīs not contradictional. | 
02-14-2010, 08:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Eastern Wisconsin | | | See, that's the problem with theory.
She's letting theory become more important than music.
And that's wrong.
Oh, and she's wrong, too.
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02-14-2010, 11:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Reynoldsburg Ohio | | | riff as in part of the rhythm right? Not a lick like in a lead phrase?
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02-14-2010, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by M0ses See, that's the problem with theory.
She's letting theory become more important than music.
And that's wrong.
Oh, and she's wrong, too. | There's no problem with theory, just with certain people who use it. | 
02-14-2010, 11:30 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Genz Benz Amplification | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nashville | | | Play her the riff to "Message in a Bottle" by the police... hmmm... sounds like a riff to me... | 
02-15-2010, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lowfreq33 Play her the riff to "Message in a Bottle" by the police... hmmm... sounds like a riff to me... | or Every Breath You Take.
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02-15-2010, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by thaydnbass I'm on to composing my second song for my GCSE exam, i'm aiming for an A*.
The name of the exam is Popular music since 1960, so it's fairly open, taking into account genre. Criteria is that is that it must require: a riff, lyrics, and have a song structure of verse, verse, bridge, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus, outro.
I was having a discussion with my music teacher whether or not an arpeggio counts as a riff, using examples such as the beatles, sting and the police and REM. She retorted that she didn't believe an an arpeggio could count as a riff, as it would be more of a broken chord.
Please discuss. | If you're aiming for an A grade, challenging the assignment instructions will get in your way, won't it? Put a rhythmic pattern over an enclosure & move on to writing the lyrics, bridge & chorus variations. It's an exercise & your instructor has a purpose related to the course. It seems, to me, knowing what is on her mind will get you closer to an A than having some short lived sense of being right about vocabulary.
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02-16-2010, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by M0ses See, that's the problem with theory.
She's letting theory become more important than music.
And that's wrong.
Oh, and she's wrong, too. | and how right you are.
Anyway, to avoid conflict, just put one queer note in the arpeggio  for a kinky touch... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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