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01-04-2009, 02:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nv | | Bass Clef vs Treble clef. Whats the difference?
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So heres my story. I play bass (without knowing theroy) and i am taking a guitar class in my school. (it gets you really good foundation). I've been playing bass for like 2 years and can only cover songs i've herd and if i can find okay tabs to them i can usually make my own correction.
~now onto the main point. The guitar class is teaching me treble clef, and (because my friends who have taken the class have told me) it can really teach it and have a good foundation. Now my question is. Is the bass clef different than the treble clef? like i understand that the signs are different and what not, and that the bass clef is "lower" sounding, but is the notes the same on the bass clef as it is the treble clef?
EX. on the treble clef, the second space(from the bottom) is an A. just second string for the guitar. Now if you were to make that on the bass clef, the second space (from the bottom) is also an A? I have no idea so i'm asking you guys because if it is this way, then learning theory will be a lot easier for me!!
Thanks
~Craig
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01-04-2009, 02:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, ON Canada | | | the bass clef is below middle C, the treble clef is above middle C
so from the bottom to the top (line, space, line space)
_____F
_____D
_____B (TREBLE CLEF)
_____G
_____E
_____middle C (line) (leger line between the treble and bass clefs)
_____A
_____F
_____D (BASS CLEF)
_____B
_____G
(the spaces between the lines... you guessed it... the letter that is missing, between G & B, A)
hope this helps
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01-04-2009, 03:27 PM
|  | Mr Sumisu 2 U Developer: iGigBook® | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Peoples Republic of Brooklyn | | | There is no "bass cleft" or "treble cleft"...stop saying it that way if you do and stop writing it that way! It's bass clef or treble clef...got it? | 
01-04-2009, 03:30 PM
| | Registered User Physician CSR, Park Surgical Co INC | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | bass clef is (from bottom to top) GBDFA for the lines
the spaces are ACEG
treble is (from bottom to top) EGBDF for the lines
the spaces are FACE
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01-04-2009, 06:17 PM
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Andy
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01-04-2009, 07:06 PM
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01-04-2009, 07:07 PM
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01-04-2009, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by von buck Lets throw in Tenor clef to mix things up
Andy | Get your viola nonesense out of here... heathen!
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01-04-2009, 07:13 PM
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It's not that hard.
Btw>
Don't neglect your English class either :-)
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01-04-2009, 07:15 PM
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I think that's what they taught us many many years ago.
You know back when schools had their s... together and still offered music programs, recess, sports programs, and I almost forgot "REAL" homecooked meals in the cafeteria 
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01-04-2009, 10:35 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nv | | | Sorry, about my spelling. I though it was pronounced like clef but spelled "cleft"... Jesus some people... Well this makes my life a lot harder haha. I'm learning the treble right now, and learning the two at the same time doesn't sound like fun.
Thanks guys!!
~craig
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01-04-2009, 10:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston | | Answer: A palette vs a chin?
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01-04-2009, 10:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SE Wisconsin | | | if you want to learn bass clef really well you can get either "standing in the shadows of motown" or a bass clef copy of the real book and just read out of it every day.
or grab some piano music (has both) and just point at the notes and name them with no bass in your hands | 
01-04-2009, 11:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota | | | Standing in the Shadows Transcriptions? Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogbertday if you want to learn bass clef really well you can get either "standing in the shadows of motown" or a bass clef copy of the real book and just read out of it every day. | Meaning there is a book of bass clef transcriptions of motown bass lines?
Looked at www.standingintheshadowsofmotown.com and couldn't find.
I'm pretty much tied to charts so this would be useful.
Yah, I know "Get an ear."
Thanks for your reply.
RJM
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01-05-2009, 12:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Las Vegas, Nv | | | So what book would be best to learn from?
Craig
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01-05-2009, 08:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fargo, ND | | | No, he was talking about the bass clef version of The Real Book. The Real Book is the holy word for anyone who wants to play jazz/blue/funk/whatever the hell else. It's a great resource. Any band should have at least a few around at all times.
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01-05-2009, 08:14 AM
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01-05-2009, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil Smith There is no "bass cleft" or "treble cleft"...stop saying it that way if you do and stop writing it that way! It's bass clef or treble clef...got it? | Right. The thread title makes my eyes hurt.
OP -- Exit the thread, double click next to the thread hyperlink, and edit. I tried it yesterday on a thread of mine, it works. 
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01-05-2009, 10:10 AM
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