Is Bass Guitar Right for me?

[Heme]

Hello everyone, not quite sure this is the correct forum section, but I didn't see a beginner-type section on any of the forums.

I apologize for this wall of text.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone out there (there meaning here ) could help me with a little dilemma I'm having. I'm 16, and am interested in starting an instrument. I've been talking to some friends who play various instruments, but sadly, none play bass.

If I were to start playing bass, I have a few questions/concerns.
1. Does it take a lot of funds to begin playing bass?
2. Should I get an instructor?

I have never had any musical background before, but I've always wanted to try something like this - A skill that I'll be able to use for the rest of my life. Maybe not one that will make me money, but a hobby.

Now, I know from reading these forums, online videos, and discussions with my friends that bass is primarily used in Jazz/Blues-type music. Now I'm not dissing (is that a word you kids use nowadays?) those styles of music, but I don't think that I would get the same joy out of playing that type of music as, say, something more modern.

Another question that springs to mind because of this is: What styles of music am I really limited to (if any) if I decide to play bass, as opposed to electric guitar?

I listen to all sorts of music, but my favorites would have to be Emo/Screamo (no flames please, I like the fast beats), Indie (possibly the best-sounding "modern" bass tones to me), Rock, Reggae (Authority Zero's Reggae influences to be exact), and a whole list of others.

I hear bass solos in songs. The Killers' "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine" has got to be one of my favorite openings to a song, and it's a bass solo.

That song is one of the prime examples of why I want to play a bass guitar. Its low tones sound amazing, and I'm not sure I could play an electric guitar with the same passion. On the same note, I'm torn. I don't want to end up playing with only a Jazz/Blues band when it's not something I really want to do.

Thanks in advance for reading over what I've posted, and for any comments that are made.

[bkbirge]

It's not a life sentence decision. Try it for awhile and see if it clicks. It doesn't take a lot of money to get started and yes you do need a teacher when beginning, though some would argue that point. Bass is used in just about all genres of music. You don't need to worry about 'limiting' yourself to jazz, lol.

[Heme]

Originally Posted by bkbirge

It's not a life sentence decision. Try it for awhile and see if it clicks. It doesn't take a lot of money to get started and yes you do need a teacher when beginning, though some would argue that point. Bass is used in just about all genres of music. You don't need to worry about 'limiting' yourself to jazz, lol.

Right, but when I asked some of my friends about playing bass, they basically just laughed and told me to have fun with Jazz.

Could you recommend something for me to get started with?

[steve66]

You can get a starter pack bass and amp for under $300.00. I would suggest that you learn to read music and get a good teacher to teach you some theory.

[RickenBoogie]

Your friends seem quite uninformed. Bass guitar is played in ALL styles of music. I don't know where that got the idea it's only a jazz instrument, that's crazy talk. You could get a beginner set up at any guitar shop, like Guitar Center. Complete package deal, bass, amp, cords, etc, for very little $$$. Good luck, and tell your friends they're... oh, never mind, I'll be nice.

[jenderfazz]

Yeah, you said it yourself, bass is everywhere. Of course, it has more visible roles such as in funk and jazz, and it can also be hidden/less audible in some metal and hardcore bands, etc. But most types of music have bass frequencies and bass guitar can play em. The (main) reason jazz is a big focus for musicians (especially for bass) is that you learn a lot about music and become a better player. You can apply that knowledge to rock or anything else and it can be useful, or you can skip jazz altogether and just play what you like. No rules, no obligations to continue if you don't like it.

[grovest]

Originally Posted by Heme

If I were to start playing bass, I have a few questions/concerns.
1. Does it take a lot of funds to begin playing bass?
2. Should I get an instructor?

Heme,

Most recorded music, or at least most Western Rock / Pop, has a bass line. You would not be limited to jazz or blues.

A1: I think it probably takes a little more than to start guitar. There are fewer used basses to choose from, so finding a really nice used bass for cheap ("garage sale treasure") is probably not as common as with guitar. And, bass requires more power to amplify than guitar, so a good beginner amplifier is probably more than a good beginner amp for guitar. Incidentally, I'd be 'wary' of buying "beginner" anything. Instead, find something used. I think you could do this for under $500.
A2: Yes, you should pay for reoccurring private lessons as often as funds and time allows.

Good luck and have fun.

[Earthday]

The bass is the foundation of almost all modern music. If anything you would love bass because of it's freedom to play just about every genre imaginable. If you've got the funds, I don't see why not, you seem interested in it and if you buy used gear, you could sell it right back for the same price (or more if you got a good deal) if you don't enjoy it, or decide on another instrument. The best way to learn is definitely a teacher if that's available. Once you get a good grasp of basic music theory and how to apply it to bass, I'd say bass is one of the easier instruments to be able to adapt and fulfill your role "on-the spot".

[deelybopper]

Hey, If you find yourself "hearing" the bass lines in songs that you like that is a pretty good indicator that you will enjoy learning the bass. The fact that none of your friends play the bass should tell you that someone needs to take responsibility for laying down the bottom.
Take lessons and try out several teachers before deciding on one. A good teacher can suggest an instrument.
good luck!

[jsbass]

Originally Posted by Heme

Right, but when I asked some of my friends about playing bass, they basically just laughed and told me to have fun with Jazz.

Could you recommend something for me to get started with?

Tell your friends they're idiots. Bass is used in every genre from Metal to Country.

[SpectorBass308]

It only has 4 strings, how hard can it be?

[Gasman]

Deelybopper is right- if you hear basslines, and like that part of the song (which IS the song, by the way), than you will probably enjoy playing bass. It is the foundation of almost all modern western music, and thus has the most potential for individual expression, IMO.

My advice is first to get the best bass you can for your budget and a cheap amp- an expensive amp is necessary down the road, if you decide that bass is for you, but you need an axe that makes you want to pick it up and play- even without an amp. Be aware from the start that you won't sound exactly like the musicians you hear on the radio, but you will be able to get the jist of it.

Second, listen to music- a LOT of music. If you already hear the bassline, you are a step ahead. Focus on just that part in the car, your room, wherever. You need to focus on the basic rhythm and beat of the song. As you play more, you will start to mentally play along in your head. Play along with songs that YOU like in the beginning- just start with the root note and play the rhythm. Pick slower songs to start, if you can, as they will seem easier and give you a feeling of accomplishment when you learn them.

Third, get a beginner bass book. It doesn't matter which one- they're basically all the same and will teach you the anatomy of the guitar, the notes of the fretboard, basic scales and arpeggios, and probably a few easy tunes. Later, get a book of just scales and learn them.

An instructor is a great way to jump start, but I never had one when I started, and have been playing for as long as you've been alive. I took a few lessons after I played for about a year, but couldn't afford to keep going on a regular basis. So I guess I'm not the best person to ask about teachers because I never really had one, but I wish I had. That being said, there is TONS of information on the internet about technique, music theory, how to read music, etc.. That's how I learned.

[magnusdeus123]

I faced the same scenario like your about 2 months ago , under even more constricted conditions , here's my reasons ;

1 It's Bass..... . Thats good enough in itself .

2 The bass concepts which you learn now , have been around longer than fancy guitar concepts you learn today . It's as (if not more) versatile instrument as a guitar . If you bring it down to roles that the bass player CAN play a lot of things , but over time , he becomes intelligent enough to play what suits the music best .

3 It's a different instrument . I dont know about you , but I'm one of the "Avoid-the-crowd's" kinda person , and nothing gives me an ego boost more than hearing ;
"Hey you play Guitar !!"
"No I play bass...."
"...yeah , it's a guitar though right ??"
"........*walks away*"
I'm just that weird kinda person guess .

4 You also need to understand very importantly that what kinda music really gets your moving , coz before I picked up bass I used to be into Dance-pop , 90's style Dance , Industrial Rock , Punk , Alternative Rock (not grunge) and so on......and I'm really happy to say that Bass was perfect for me because I was a very Beat-based Groove oriented person , and it's totally that kinda instrument . If your a Bluesy improv. kinda guy or a Neo-Classical lover (basically melody heavy music) , then it'd wouldnt make sense to take up Bass .


Lastly , I'd just say that I'm not that fond of jazz too , and I dont think unless I develop interest in it , I would ever need to play it . I got enough Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath) + Geddy Lee (Rush) + Whatever Alter rock i listen to , that I dont need to force myself into a music genre I dont like playing .

Hope this was helpfull , cheers .

[Yngwie 4String]

Hello everyone, not quite sure this is the correct forum section, but I didn't see a beginner-type section on any of the forums.

I apologize for this wall of text.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone out there (there meaning here ) could help me with a little dilemma I'm having. I'm 16, and am interested in starting an instrument. I've been talking to some friends who play various instruments, but sadly, none play bass.

If I were to start playing bass, I have a few questions/concerns.

1. Does it take a lot of funds to begin playing bass?

You can get a decent starter set for $200-$300 eventually youll upgrade to a bigger equipment, but get decent before you by your big amp. If you suck on a little amp your just gonna suck louder on a big amp.

2. Should I get an instructor?

Ive never had an instructor, and I think it would make life a lot easier, but is it necessary? NO

I have never had any musical background before, but I've always wanted to try something like this - A skill that I'll be able to use for the rest of my life. Maybe not one that will make me money, but a hobby.

You dont need a musical background, but Id advise taking a course on theory. If you cant take a course then spend time on this forums, general insructions and techniques sections. Those guys are very very helpful people.

Now, I know from reading these forums, online videos, and discussions with my friends that bass is primarily used in Jazz/Blues-type music. Now I'm not dissing (is that a word you kids use nowadays?) those styles of music, but I don't think that I would get the same joy out of playing that type of music as, say, something more modern.

You can play whatever the hell you please, but seriously mastering diferent types of music is fun. Im a metalhead, but I play Beethoven on my bass cause its fun.

Another question that springs to mind because of this is: What styles of music am I really limited to (if any) if I decide to play bass, as opposed to electric guitar?

You wont be able to play high annoying crap. Seriously though you wont be limited in anyway except that you play lower pitches than the electric guitar. If you have a string inadequecy complex then you can purchase a 6 or 7 string bass.However my experience is that you rarely use the extra strings.

I listen to all sorts of music, but my favorites would have to be Emo/Screamo (no flames please, I like the fast beats), Indie (possibly the best-sounding "modern" bass tones to me), Rock, Reggae (Authority Zero's Reggae influences to be exact), and a whole list of others.

I hear bass solos in songs. The Killers' "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine" has got to be one of my favorite openings to a song, and it's a bass solo.

That song is one of the prime examples of why I want to play a bass guitar. Its low tones sound amazing, and I'm not sure I could play an electric guitar with the same passion. On the same note, I'm torn. I don't want to end up playing with only a Jazz/Blues band when it's not something I really want to do.

You have a lot to learn. There are much better basslines and solos than what is in that song.

Thanks in advance for reading over what I've posted, and for any comments that are made.

Some suggestions

1.Watch Victor Wooten on you tube if you want to see all the diferent techniques and capabilities of the bass guitar. matter of fact if this doesnt make you want to play bass then nothing will: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEyEu-hS0fA This is not playing a genre this is making love to a musical instrument.

2.Listen to Primus, cause Primus rules, and Les claypool is the man.

3.Grow a goatee and start wearing hats. Trust me on this.

4.I think that you have the right attitude, but the only way to really know is to go into a music store, and sit down with a bass for a while, then sit down with a guitar for a while. See which one calls to you. If you go with bass, welcome to the family man. If you choose guitar, well... Sometimes people make bad choices... LOL

5.Familiarise yourself with the following musicians: Jaco Pasterous, Steve Harris, Geddy Lee, Les Claypool, Victor Wooten, Larry Graham, Rocco Prestia, Lemmy Kilmister, David Ellefson, Rober Trujillo, and of course Flea. These guys are refered to a lot on here, and youll feel silly if you dont know at least these guys.

Right, but when I asked some of my friends about playing bass, they basically just laughed and told me to have fun with Jazz.

Your friends that dont play bass right?

C

Could you recommend something for me to get started with?

Your first riff will be smoke on the water. It just happens that way.

Top String (E string): 0 3 5 0 3 6 5 0 3 5 3 0 (0 means play the string without holding a fret on your left hand. The numbers corespond to what fret you hold with 1 being closest to the headstock. I assume you know what part is the headstock, if not look it up.)

Most people that play the bass start out playing punk rock. My first song that I played all the way through was Skulls by the Misfits.

Let me know if you decide to get a bass. If you do I will try to help you out anyway I can, so dont be afraid to ask.

[Freddels]

Originally Posted by Heme

Hello everyone, not quite sure this is the correct forum section, but I didn't see a beginner-type section on any of the forums.

I apologize for this wall of text.

Anyway, I was curious if anyone out there (there meaning here ) could help me with a little dilemma I'm having. I'm 16, and am interested in starting an instrument. I've been talking to some friends who play various instruments, but sadly, none play bass.

If I were to start playing bass, I have a few questions/concerns.
1. Does it take a lot of funds to begin playing bass?
2. Should I get an instructor?

I have never had any musical background before, but I've always wanted to try something like this - A skill that I'll be able to use for the rest of my life. Maybe not one that will make me money, but a hobby.

Now, I know from reading these forums, online videos, and discussions with my friends that bass is primarily used in Jazz/Blues-type music. Now I'm not dissing (is that a word you kids use nowadays?) those styles of music, but I don't think that I would get the same joy out of playing that type of music as, say, something more modern.

Another question that springs to mind because of this is: What styles of music am I really limited to (if any) if I decide to play bass, as opposed to electric guitar?

I listen to all sorts of music, but my favorites would have to be Emo/Screamo (no flames please, I like the fast beats), Indie (possibly the best-sounding "modern" bass tones to me), Rock, Reggae (Authority Zero's Reggae influences to be exact), and a whole list of others.

I hear bass solos in songs. The Killers' "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine" has got to be one of my favorite openings to a song, and it's a bass solo.

That song is one of the prime examples of why I want to play a bass guitar. Its low tones sound amazing, and I'm not sure I could play an electric guitar with the same passion. On the same note, I'm torn. I don't want to end up playing with only a Jazz/Blues band when it's not something I really want to do.

Thanks in advance for reading over what I've posted, and for any comments that are made.

I'm finding this to be a bit of a strange thread. You say that you're 16, then you use the word "dissing" and want to know if "is that a word you kids use nowadays?" which doesn't sound like any 16 yr old that I've spoken to lately. It also doesn't sound like you ever listened to ANY music if you think that bass is limited to only jazz and blues.

[Terry_R]

If you'd call Alexisonfire screamo, I used to play in a cover band for them and it was extremely fun. Chris Steele is a very underrated player, and if you listen to some of his stuff, primarily the bass break down in "Accidents" you'll understand that the guy has talent. Another great band that'd fall under that category would be Billy Talent. I seen these guys play a few weeks ago, and Jon Gallant (their bassist) has very good technique and overall is a great player. He has a degree in Jazz bass and teaches on the side. Pick up bass and you will not regret it my friend

[Heme]

Originally Posted by Freddels

I'm finding this to be a bit of a strange thread. You say that you're 16, then you use the word "dissing" and want to know if "is that a word you kids use nowadays?" which doesn't sound like any 16 yr old that I've spoken to lately. It also doesn't sound like you ever listened to ANY music if you think that bass is limited to only jazz and blues.

I was joking during the first part; guess I'll have to emphasize my sarcasm just a touch more.

And about the Jazz/Blues thing, I'm talking about those being the only genres where bass is outspoken. I've listened to some Jazz and Blues, and you can CLEARLY hear the basslines in almost all of the songs. But when I start listening to quicker, more "hardcore" beats, the bass seems put on the back-burner, or almost not even existent.

Sorry if my vernacular doesn't sound appropriate for a 16-year-old, but I am, in fact, 16.

For the other posters: Thank you very much. 99% of your advice has been really helpful. I'm heading over to Guitar Center sometime next week to check everything out. That's the closest music store to me, and it's still 45 minutes away.

Again, thanks for all of the tips and advice - I'm sure you'll see me a lot more in weeks/months/years to come.

[meev992]

I had a few other points that I wanted to communicate, but those have been said already.

It will be a challenge, to do anything musical, without any sort of musical background/training. I started off on piano, which is why I was able to take to guitar very well, and then bass. Considering that you have no musical training, and that you're just starting out, bass would be good for you, because it has a much gentler learning curve, than say, guitar or piano (which isn't saying that bass is easier, by any means, its just that the learning curve will be much more manageable).

You might be meant to play bass, which is why you ended up here, so give it a try!

[meev992]

Originally Posted by SpectorBass308

It only has 4 strings, how hard can it be?

HAHHAHAAHHAH SpectorBass308, that's something that he'll have to learn later, if you get my drift

then again, i wish somebody told me sooner lol

[Joe Nerve]

This thread has raised my eyebrows a bit too.

In all honesty, if you're not hearing the bass in the music you listen to then perhaps bass ISN'T the instrument you should be taking up. Without being able to identify the role of the bass, or distinguish it from everything else... well, you're going to have a longer road ahead of you than most.

On the other hand, if you really feel you want to give it a go - pick up $100 bass here www.rondomusic.net . It's the best bang you're going to get for your buck. You can find a dirt cheap amplifier also to practice with until you decide whether you want to play or not. If you find it's the thing for you and you're going to get in a band you can upgrade the amp to something that will be loud enough, and then upgrade the bass.

I wouldn't invest too much if you're that much on the fence, unless of course you have money to burn. Then start by buying a Musicman Bongo.

Also - if you're doing this for fun I'd highly recommend finding a friend to teach you basics, or a teacher who will teach you to play songs and make music, not learn to read notes and understand theory. Takes longer that way to start having fun. You can always pick up on that once you're playing. Lots of vids on youtube to learn from too.