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03-03-2006, 03:19 PM
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While my ensemble and groove playing continue to improve, I have to say I'm not entirely happy with my soloing.
I have spent the last year studying harmony, doing some transcribing and working on playing more melodic ideas in general. While I can see a marked improvement from a year ago, I'm having a hard time getting what I hear in my head to translate to the hands while improvising on stage (I guess I should mention that I played mostly in rock bands for the last 10 years and now am in an improvising band where I get 4 solos a night).
What work has to be done to develop this? Is it something that comes with time?
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03-03-2006, 03:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Providence, RI | | There is a great thread on this subject in Todd Johnson's forum... Approach to Soloing
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03-03-2006, 04:15 PM
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03-03-2006, 06:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Zealand | | | Learning melodies is a good one. The scaffolding for constructing melodies is scales and modes. |
03-04-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Kid Learning melodies is a good one. The scaffolding for constructing melodies is scales and modes. | Scaffolding? How about concrete and rebar? 
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03-04-2006, 09:53 AM
| | | | Pick up the Charlie Parker Omnibook for C instruments. Working through those is great for getting your teeth into those harmonies, and it'll make your chops crazy good. |
03-04-2006, 11:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC & Vancouver, BC | | | Wear a cape, your solos will rock soo much harder. Trust me. |
03-09-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Alan Wear a cape, your solos will rock soo much harder. Trust me. | Is there a book I can get for that? 
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03-09-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ Brown Scaffolding? How about concrete and rebar? | He's right, that was interesting diction (word choice). |
03-10-2006, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Zoltok He's right, that was interesting diction (word choice). | Cheers Scott.
I also like the term "framework". |
03-10-2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Alan Wear a cape, your solos will rock soo much harder. Trust me. |
it worked for me! |
03-15-2006, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by harmolodic What work has to be done to develop this? | Videotape every performance and keeping working on your "bass face."  Is it something that comes with time?
When I was grappling with this a teacher told me to sing every line and try to play it until I could interchange singing and playing at will. This had the side benefit of getting me to eventually sing on stage as well. Ermmm...maybe not such a benefit for the audience, but...  But the idea is to get what's in your head realized as audible sound, by whatever means you can. Eventually you can hopefully cut out that step, but it's served me very well. |
03-15-2006, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Alan Wear a cape, your solos will rock soo much harder. Trust me. | True dat, double true!
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03-16-2006, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WillBuckingham Pick up the Charlie Parker Omnibook for C instruments. Working through those is great for getting your teeth into those harmonies, and it'll make your chops crazy good. | Would the "Charlie Parker Omnibook Bass Clef Edition" be a better bet? (there are about 5 different versions - are they literlly just the same things transposed?)
Also, Reading the tips in Todd Johnson's forum... This may seem like a stupid question (well it is a stupid question), but what is the melody? :S :P |
03-16-2006, 12:17 PM
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03-16-2006, 12:38 PM
|  | Secret Member | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nashville, TN | | Effects. Chorus, distortion, wah. If you can't play it, just muddy it up till it sounds good.  |
03-16-2006, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by guy n. cognito Effects. Chorus, distortion, wah. If you can't play it, just muddy it up till it sounds good. | Like Michael Anthony? 
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