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Old 01-24-2007, 10:36 PM
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*to note: Ive searched this forum for the questions im going to ask and havent had any luck so here it goes...*

After some thinking I really just cant picture myself doing anything with my life besides music.

How good should you really be to go to Berklee?
Are there any beginners there? not that im a beginner, just want a better idea of the average skill level.

Can I take say like a Major in music education, and like a minor in performance?

How are the auditions? Do you send in a tape, or is it live audition (ive heard of both, whats most recent?)

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Old 01-24-2007, 10:55 PM
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I'm not bashing Berklee or anything, but have you really looked into it? Or are you going just for the name?

A good friend and band mate of mine goes there. He got a 12,000 dollar scholarship per year.

I'm at Humber College in Toronto.

He came back to Niagara Falls and we met up, and talked to our highschool. Him and I are doing the EXACT same things. Minor differences, because I'm in an intro program, and he's in 1st year, but aside from that? Nothing is different.

I'd look around before you decide you want to go there.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:20 PM
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yeah I ve been looking around for other colleges, havent found many that look as good as berklee. Im sure the college you go to is great, its just a little far away for me. Im in new jersey
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:32 PM
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I attended Berklee for a semester (Spring 2005) and it was certainly an interesting experience. If you do not have a nice scholarship or decent financial aid though, you may wish to look else where.

That said, Berklee is filled with many different kinds of musicians. If you attend you'll see some of the greatest musicians and some that make you scratch your head as how they managed to be accepted. I guess it comes down to the $$$ at that point. Your best bet is to know how sight read efficiently, and be a sociable individual. Many that attend Berklee do not attend it for the long haul, as the expenses tend to outweigh the benefit. It's atmosphere is designed for the students to network. Not only that, but their Music Business/Tech program is pretty much what the vast majority of students go there for.

Again though, if you did attend, I'm certain you can do the Major/Minor that you mentioned.

The audition process is quite simple. If you wish to forgo the opportunity for the scholarship, you simply apply and if you're accepted, you do your audition to determine your academic level prior to receiving your schedule of classes. It consists of a prepared piece (for the love of god, do not pick a chops piece! they hate that!), minimal sight reading, and interval identification. It's not terrible unless you're utterly unprepared.

Like I said though, Berklee is all about meeting other like-minded musicians. I bailed because it was not the right environment for me. There was too much animosity and self-loathing. It really started to make me hate other musicians, and I left before I really started to dislike playing. I'm far happier pursuing a more traditional education while continuing to play as much as I did in Boston, not to mention it's better for my savings account.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
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Berklee has all levels of players...

Everyone gets a "Rating" number and your classes / live bands you play in are with people with similar ratings...

you can never be too good for school imho... or even to bad...

you are there to learn...
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For being a professional gigging bass player I don't think you really need to go to Berkley. If you were playing in a classical setting and you wanted to join a Symphony then you might want the "Berkley" name attached to your resume to get your foot in the adution door.

But for pro bass players your gigs are going to come down to two things:

1) How well can you play?
2) How well can you network?

These have very little to do with which school you go to. Especially when you weigh how much debt you might go into trying to pay for Berkley. Gigging musicians don't make a ton of money and having to pay $500+ a month for the next 30 years in student loans will kill you.

If you are interested in going to Los Angeles for school there are tons of good State Schools (like CSUN, CSULB, etc...) that have great programs- and these will cost you less then $3,000 a semester to attend. There is also LAMA which is a pretty amazing school (especially if you are a drummer).

You'd have to asses what your current music ability right now is. While a few posters mentioned "You come there to learn" inferring that you don't need to have a bunch of acquired knowledge they do so incorrectly. Most excellent music programs have a major audition process- and most of the students already have a pretty solid understanding of music theory, performance, sight reading, and singing. Now you don't NEED to have all those things but it is going to let you hit the ground running and let you concentrate on the really fun stuff (performance and the private lessons).
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For being a professional gigging bass player I don't think you really need to go to Berkley. If you were playing in a classical setting and you wanted to join a Symphony then you might want the "Berkley" name attached to your resume to get your foot in the adution door.
Yep, and if you are going classical alot of other options open up: Peabody, Indiana, etc. And actually in those cases you are looking to study under a specific instructor like Hal Robison rather than a school name.

If you are going rock/jazz I don't think Berkley is necessary. Better to get in there and gig/network with as many people as you can.


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Music is one of the few things where education doesn't matter. Do you think when Green Day got signed they asked Billie Joe where he went to school? Save yourself the money and find better ways to get your music education (like finding a Berklee educated teacher).
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:57 PM
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i just sent 2 of my students off to the wonderful cold land of berklee.
both of them received scholarships and were studying w/me for a couple years - they wernt beginners. all the questions u are asking can be answered from the berklee website. http://www.berklee.edu/
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