Best GUITAR PLAYER forum? (Yes, I know; put your flamethrowers away...)

[Rudreax]

It just...wouldn't work. You make the forum, and then guitar players from all corners of the Internet will flock to it. The forum will be "overrun" and then they'll start spilling over into the other forums...and then you'll get problems. I'd go into details on this, but I think the fact that so other such forum for guitar exists speaks for itself.

[bassrique]

Originally Posted by Rudreax

It just...wouldn't work. You make the forum, and then guitar players from all corners of the Internet will flock to it. The forum will be "overrun" and then they'll start spilling over into the other forums...and then you'll get problems. I'd go into details on this, but I think the fact that so other such forum for guitar exists speaks for itself.

Guitarists from all corners of the world will leave their guitar forums to overrun a bass forum that has a little guitar sub-forum?

This is not logical.

[Rudreax]

^That gif is badass.

Of course they wouldn't do it for the sake of doing it, or anything like that. I'm just saying that if you make one forum for guitarists, that forum is going to become very limited in terms of all-around information (most likely a few topics will dominate the whole sub-forum) which will mean that they will have to go somewhere else for information. There won't be much of a reason to go far, considering the other forums.

[bassrique]

One more Spock gif for you [wish it was bigger]:

[xzzy]

Not that I'm making an argument that this is a reason it should be done, but no one can really say what would happen until it's been attempted.

My prediction is that the bassists here that also play guitar would fill the place out with general guitar-centric discussion, and other than that, there wouldn't be much of an impact on the board. I guess the board might see some new users drawn to it, but this is pretty well known as a site for bass players. Any guitard looking for a forum to learn how to "shred like slash" will pass right by.

I don't really care if it happens either way, it seems like a pretty polarizing subject so I doubt it'll ever happen.

[jollygiantchris]

Originally Posted by bassrique

Guitarists from all corners of the world will leave their guitar forums to overrun a bass forum that has a little guitar sub-forum?

This is not logical.

^^^^
Totally agree (and I want to see that gif as much as possible). Everything people are stating might happen worst case scenario wouldn't happen if there was a guitar subforum due to the moderating on TalkBass being almost perfect. All of the immature, obnoxious guitarists would quickly leave as their posts got deleted and they got banned in addition after reading a couple posts I'm sure they would realize the maturity level here is far past high school.

I say make the forum but at the bare least its worth maybe making a poll and seeing what everybody thinks.

[derekd]

Originally Posted by totallyfrozen

TalkBass is unique. Over the years, I've probably joined a dozen forums on all sorts of various topics and hobbies. NONE...I'll repeat that, NONE of them are like TalkBass.

Why? Because the TYPE of people who have common interests in things are different. TalkBass appeals to good humored bassists and musicians of many kinds who are serious about LEARNING but can still joke around.

A guitar sub-section of TB would only attract the same type of people who have FAILED to make the already existing guitar forums a good place to be. All it would do would be to attract those people over here so they can turn TB into a petty, child-infested, flame-war like all those other forums are.

I'm totally against trying to add a guitar (or drums or the kazoo or anything else) section on TB. I really don't think that it's the TB forum that makes this place a great place to be...I think it's the PEOPLE who are here. Bring in the "other" kinds of people and the neighborhood goes to hell. The forum doesn't make the people cool; the people make the forum cool.

TB is FULL of VERY experienced, knowlegable musicians who are more than willing to share experiences and advice to those who want it. Sure, there's a little banter and light-weight flamming now and again--but it's all in fun and when someone starts getting too upset about stuff, TB'ers know when to cool off, back away, and leave a guy alone (or apologize). In the end, the motive is helpfulness. In almost 2 years on the guitar forums, I NEVER saw that kind of "brotherhood" or courtesty! I think it's a dominant personality trait that goes along with the kind of people who actually ENJOY playing a SUPPORTING instrument--NOT the lead instrument. You can't just try to create, force, or demand a helpful/supportive personality in someone who doesn't already have it. If they had it, they'd have picked up supportive role instrument.

Is anyone getting my point? Can you track this or am I confusing someone.

Is da guitarman da debil? NO
Are ALL guitarists pompous, wankmiesters? Not by a long shot!
However, there are enough of them on the internet to ruin a forum in a short time. That's why nearly all the guitar forums out there suck! They were all started with good intentions...but the PEOPLE make the neighborhood. You have to start with the TYPE of people how are naturally ready to help and support. The egocentric "rock stars" of the world are NOT that type of people.

TB is a brotherhood (and sisterhood for our lady bassists here). The other places are NOT.

Sorry if I offended anyone but that's my view on it.

P.S. I'm sure a guitarist who comes on here and posts a question or comment from a legitimate angle of trying to understanding music, band dynamics, or the music biz will be received with the same respect that we pay the bassists around here. Sorry guitarists, stereotypes exist for a reason and unfortunately you have a slight uphill climb to earn your stripes around here. TB is a place for musicians so even a guitarist can have a brotherhood here with us. It's all in your presentation.

I see what you are talking about, and I value this site, but frankly, if I didn't know any better, I would come away thinking most (clearly not all) bass players are childishly jealous of guitar players.

Every day there are a number of posts bashing "guitards". As primarily a guitarist, but someone who loves bass and works on it regularly, I always feel on the outside looking in. I certainly don't experience the "brotherhood" thing here.

I hang out on a half dozen sites (mostly jazz), and there are all kinds of people, on all of them. However, none of them bash bass players like TB bashes guitarists. TB is certainly unique in many ways, but unfortunately one of the unique things about it are there are plenty of bassholes around.

(hopefully you read my tongue firmly in cheek on the last statement)

[Hyperfreak]

I would agree with Frozen for one reason. There are so many more wannabe guitarists on the internet who come to the instrument because of its spotlight pull and are immersed in it like any other phase, littering tab sites and youtube comment sections with awful grammar and insulting attitudes. Those sorts of people are attracted to big communities where they can try to share a spotlight.

I think, however, if it were less specific, it might work.

I propose the idea of a multi-instrumentalism forum, for our bass brethren who also share talents and interests on other instruments

I, personally, play bass as my second instrument. I love it no less, but I'm a marimbist by trade and giving up the marimba would simply never happen.

It doesn't need to list any specifics. Just for bass players to talk about the other things they play, and how they meld them with their bass skills. Especially how bass skills carry over to other instruments. Learning bass gave my dynamics, approach and harmony a whole new gleam on percussion instruments, especially marimba and vibes.

With mods with some foresight, it would be a nice addition for people already here and remain true to bass, rather than a specific outreach to anyone with access to 'google' and the fingers required to type the words 'guitar forum.'

[fretlessman71]

Time to give this forum a healthy BUMP. I like Hyperfreak's idea - lots of bassists who double on other instruments here; why not give them a forum as well?

[DudeistMonk]

Originally Posted by fretlessman71

Time to give this forum a healthy BUMP. I like Hyperfreak's idea - lots of bassists who double on other instruments here; why not give them a forum as well?

With a little guidance maybe I can do something with the keyboard in my room other than use it to play drum loops and the occasional bass line or sad melody....I also have to learn a bit O'Rhythm guitar for an instrument swap stage gimmick my lead guitarist wants to do and having a place to turn for that info would be helpful.

[Radio]

TDPRI may be the Telecaster forum another TBer mentioned. They play every type of music, do discuss other axes.
Another is the Steel Guitar Forum-same story.
There are bassers on both, they're mature, and both have lots of instructional references. The steel guitaristas also use pre-amp, amp racks that are pretty close to what many TBers use.