Which is the better Jazz Fake Book?

[ryco]

Hal Leonard Real Jazz Book

or

Chuck Sher New Real Book

or please post another you think is better!
Thanx in advance,

-Ryco

[Dirk Diggler]

Well how the world has changed, I got mine originally from a guy on the street in front of Berklee, now you can get it at Wallmart.
IMHO this is the standard of standards in the Jazz world.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2443850?so...ci_sku=2443850

[TheBasicBassist]

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Well how the world has changed, I got mine originally from a guy on the street in front of Berklee, now you can get it at Wallmart.
IMHO this is the standard of standards in the Jazz world.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2443850?so...ci_sku=2443850

Does this version include lyrics? I, accidentally, bought the Bb 6th edition back when I was starting and have always been meaning to replace it because staring at fake book pages on my Mac is killing my eyes, man!

[ryco]

I bought the brown paper wrapper one back in college in the '70s for $20, but it disappeared long ago. Looking for a replacement to learn how to sight read treble clef.

[fdeck]

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Well how the world has changed, I got mine originally from a guy on the street in front of Berklee, now you can get it at Wallmart.
IMHO this is the standard of standards in the Jazz world.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2443850?so...ci_sku=2443850

This is the one with the most overlap with the old Real Book -- all the same hopelessly overplayed tunes.

[dvh]

Originally Posted by fdeck

This is the one with the most overlap with the old Real Book -- all the same hopelessly overplayed tunes.

But a must have....

[J. Montgomery]

Originally Posted by TheBasicBassist

Does this version include lyrics?

No, I've never seen one with lyrics. You can get a bass clef version too.

'The Real Book' posted by Dirk Diggler is the book that people refer to when they talk about the Real Book.

[raymondl3]

Get one of the old "unofficial" Real Books and a "Pocket Changes." I use the Hal Leaonard Real Book (Bass Clef) in the link above for sight reading and learning melodies but some of the "corrected" chord changes are not as good as the old Real Book.

[CapnSev]

Originally Posted by J. Montgomery

No, I've never seen one with lyrics. You can get a bass clef version too.

'The Real Book' posted by Dirk Diggler is the book that people refer to when they talk about the Real Book.

+1

There's a ton of different versions for different instruments that all coordinate together, and even one specifically for bass (bass lines to the songs in bass clef).

I play jazz gigs regularly, and we all just read out of this book- no rehearsals necessary.

[Schlyder]

Originally Posted by J. Montgomery

'The Real Book' posted by Dirk Diggler is the book that people refer to when they talk about the Real Book.

+1 this ^

[raymondl3]

Originally Posted by CapnSev

+1

There's a ton of different versions for different instruments that all coordinate together, and even one specifically for bass (bass lines to the songs in bass clef).

I play jazz gigs regularly, and we all just read out of this book- no rehearsals necessary.

Which one has the basslines for the songs?

[CapnSev]

Originally Posted by raymondl3

Which one has the basslines for the songs?

The bass clef version:

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/...dition/5811397

[raymondl3]

Originally Posted by CapnSev

The bass clef version:

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/...dition/5811397

OK. That book has the melodies in bass clef but only a handfull of basslines.

[CapnSev]

Originally Posted by raymondl3

OK. That book has the melodies in bass clef but only a handfull of basslines.

Typically, the ones I've found without a really definitive bass line is either a swing-ish tune or easy latin, so yeah, some general jazz theory is required. I've also found that volume 2 is more bass line-oriented than volume 1.

[BlakeJustBlake]

Yeah, you gotta know how to walk if you're going to read through it on bass, very few tunes will have bass parts written for you.

[Richard Lindsey]

Well, the "real" Real Book is a classic, and it's gratifying that it's now, so we hear, being produced more ethically (meaning, I suppose, that the composers get paid).

But AFAIAC, just about all the Chuck Sher stuff is better done. More accurate, more wide-ranging, easier to read, more consistent ... just flat out better done. I nearly always prefer working with the Sher charts when i have a choice.

The only thing is, Sher publishes a lot of books, and there's no one Sher volume that is roughly equivalent to the Real Book in terms of the tunes it contains. (You may or may not consider this a problem.) I think the tunes in the Real Book are mostly in Sher's books somewhere, but not in any single one; they tend to be kind of spread out. And as i said, there are a lot of Sher books: 3 volumes of New Real Books, the World's Greatest Fake Book, a Standards volume, a European Jazz volume, an All-Jazz volume, a Latin volume, and probably more that i haven't kept up with. Each about $40. So you have to kind of choose wisely, if you're not planning to plunk down a few hundred dollars at one go.

[kreider204]

BTW, there's a nice Real Book app for iPhone / iTouch - no melodies or lyrics, just chord changes, but that's plenty handy for most of us bass players. (Also, it'll transpose to any key for you.)

[Richard Lindsey]

Originally Posted by kreider204

BTW, there's a nice Real Book app for iPhone / iTouch - no melodies or lyrics, just chord changes, but that's plenty handy for most of us bass players. (Also, it'll transpose to any key for you.)

Bring that sucker to the Android Market!

[Scottgun]

Heh. Back in the college in the 80's and you didn't want to smoke pot but still wanted to be subversive you bought the real book. I think I still have a copy somewhere

[Ed Fuqua]

Originally Posted by kreider204

BTW, there's a nice Real Book app for iPhone / iTouch - no melodies or lyrics, just chord changes, but that's plenty handy for most of us bass players. (Also, it'll transpose to any key for you.)

Beats using your ears, I guess....