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04-13-2005, 10:34 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Strensall, York, England | | | Boosting mids for slap?
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I just thought I'd say I find all this 'gotta have a scooped sound for slap' stuff RUBBISH. My bass sounds a million times better if I boost the mids and slap it, I get a nice agressive tone, think Ryan Martinie. Does anyone else do this? | 
04-13-2005, 10:53 AM
| | Workin' up a black sweat. | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Andover, MA | | | I RARELY change my settings. They sound good for everything ;-D.
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04-13-2005, 11:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington, DC / Ithaca, NY | | | Scooped is excellent for slap. It allows you to get really percussive without it sounding like crap. | 
04-13-2005, 11:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nottingham UK | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Indi86 Scooped is excellent for slap. It allows you to get really percussive without it sounding like crap. | +1.
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04-13-2005, 11:31 AM
| | | | slap EQ Well if it works for you and sounds good then do it!
When I slap, I make the follwoing EQ adjustments;
A cut at 5Khz. (I normally boost my treble by about 6dB above flat at 5kHz. When I slap, I cut by 6db bellow flat. )
For the mids I normally boost by about 4db above flat at 1.6khz (to get a 70s rock sound). When I slap, I cut it by 10 dB below flat around 1 - 1.6khz.
For the lows I'll boost by 2-3 dB at the low end.
I have this programmed into my ME-50b for quick chnages in live shows. WHer etime is not an issue, I"ll use the bass and treble control on my SVT and my parametric EQ for the mid-scoop. | 
04-13-2005, 04:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | | I do! I run with the bass 3/4 of the way up, mids maxed, and treble right in the middle for both slap and fingerstyle. It sounds very alive.
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04-14-2005, 07:56 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Strensall, York, England | | | WEll it seems I'm not the only one with the idea of boosting mids for slap. Doesn't Ryan Martinie have like loads and loads of mids? He plays slap and it cuts thru like mad. | 
04-14-2005, 08:03 AM
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04-14-2005, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield "...like mud" ?  | Yep, you got it bro' 
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04-14-2005, 11:50 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Strensall, York, England | | | HUH?! Go listen to Know Forever and say his tone is mud. pfffft. | 
04-14-2005, 02:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annapolis, MD | | | Today i had a revalation.
Boosting the low mids and rolling off the tone knob makes my jazz growl perfectly. Its not harsh or rigid, just smoothe and thumpy.
I slap constantly. | 
04-14-2005, 02:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boston | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nickthebassist HUH?! Go listen to Know Forever and say his tone is mud. pfffft. | The man tunes down to G. I have to commend him in everyway. And I think it sounds phenominal! | 
04-14-2005, 10:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: montreal, qc, Canada | | | I don't like boosting mids to slap because it seems to get a bit too boomy. I rarely cut them in a live situation though, or it tends to get lost (it's usually lost as it is, being more percussive than fingerstyle... sounds a bit thinner). Boosting mids is a good way to get a thick aggressive sound, but mids can be tricky. Too much and your bass is honky, and too little and it'll get lost in the mix. | 
04-16-2005, 04:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand | | | I just pull my magic pull-knob on my Warwick, and it suddenly transforms into a slapping monster! Does a bass boost and a mid scoop (you can set the amounts in the battery compartment) and I turn up the treble from the front of the bass, just a small boost. | 
04-16-2005, 09:14 PM
| | Workin' up a black sweat. | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Andover, MA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by opivy3056 Today i had a revalation.
Boosting the low mids and rolling off the tone knob makes my jazz growl perfectly. Its not harsh or rigid, just smoothe and thumpy.
I slap constantly. | My pile drivingly heavy Jazz doesn't have a tone knob. Yes 
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04-16-2005, 09:50 PM
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04-19-2005, 11:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | | I actually also boost my mids when I slap. I find it actually helps with the volume of my slapping. Prolly because I'm not very good at slapping.  But I can definately see there's many applications for scooped mids + slapping.
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04-21-2005, 10:02 AM
| | | | Depending on the slap groove I am playing I either have
Boosted Bass and High End (allows for me to use the middle notes as more 'percussion' notes)
Boosted Middle, Low Bass (For less deep and more prominent slap riffs)
I use an effects board to quickly switch between the two | 
04-24-2005, 10:02 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by lethifold Depending on the slap groove I am playing I either have
Boosted Bass and High End (allows for me to use the middle notes as more 'percussion' notes)
Boosted Middle, Low Bass (For less deep and more prominent slap riffs)
I use an effects board to quickly switch between the two | Yeah, my only complaint with boosted mids is that percussive effects don't sound so smooth.
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