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Old 01-01-2012, 03:45 PM
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Breaking out of a quarter-note rut when improv'ing

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This is something which is really frustrating me!


My problem is that outside of 4/4 time when improvising, I end up getting lost. I just can't figure out how to play in anything other than quarter notes. This only seems to be an improvisational issue as well which is frustrating.

And it's not because I can't play in different time sigs either- I play a lot of prog which isn't known for its standard time sigs.

Anyone help?
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Old 01-01-2012, 04:56 PM
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The first thing you should obviously do is set up a metronome to different tempos and play some scales along.
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Old 01-01-2012, 05:41 PM
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Start "singing" the notes,make up a melody,that will let you go off the usual quarter notes and will add half notes,8ths,16ths,rests.
Or can forget about the tempo altogether,if you can follow the chord progression.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:16 AM
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An easy trick beside the metronome would be to feel comfortable with the 2 against 3. Then if you play in 5/4, you can break it down into 2 quarters + 2:3 or the other way around like this 2:3+2 quarters notes just like the Take Five bassline.

if you have some 3/4 comping tracks or make some yourself, then jam just on that 3/4 to feel good at playing rhythmically on top.

It might help to hear some rhythms cells.

Then you can feel the odd meters as composite cells.
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I would guess that you, like most western musicians, have heard way more music in 4/4 meter than any others, including 3/4. Improvising is creating, and any creative writing teacher will start you off by writing about things you know.
So then, the trick is to become very familiar with the time signatures and/or tempos that are giving you the biggest problem.
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