chord changes for Isley's Dinner and a Movie
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A buddy asked me to fill in for a rehearsal of his soul band. One tune on the list is Ronald Isley's Dinner and a Movie.
Well, I'm having a bit of trouble hearing the chord changes. Sounds like they gated a keyboard bass with the kick, or maybe they used a patch with an indefinite pitch..?
Anyhow, I don't often have much trouble learning pop and rnb material, but the mix of this tune is throwing me.
Any help much appreciated!
Know of a sheet music site that might have it..?
Not ignoring you....
Did not find a chord chart, however in several places the Internet mentioned the song will use "minor chords in a demanding chord progression".
If the progression is that demanding I would think the band would have a chart they use for this song. Check with the lead guitar or your buddy.
Thanks for posting, good buddy!
It's the mix that's throwing me the curve. There just isn't much of a bass part in it, so there's the upper parts in the chords (juicy! nice and jazzy) only.
I can cop a bass line I can hear (my ear's decent), but in this case I'm gonna have to figure out a bass part for a tune that doesn't really have one.
Hmn. Dunno 'bout the "minor chords in a demanding progression" on the 'Net...
The vocal melody sounds like Bb major to me. Best I can figure the changes (trying to catch the keyboard and backing vocal parts) is Ebmaj7 Dm7 Fmaj7 Emaj7.
That would make sense to me in Bb major: IV, iii, V(altered), bV (chromatic passing back to the start of the phrase). And the bridge goes to the relative minor via IV iii, vi.
That's a tough one. Hard to hear the bass. I think I can get the chords though.
It sounds like it's in F.
A muted F in the bass seems to work throughout the entire verse also.
It seems to start out on a Bb, but I hear it resolving to an F.
Try this for intro and 1st verse:
Ebmaj7 Dm7 Fmaj7 G#m7
all with an F in the bass
Thanks! I'll try that, too.
Pretty wild. You know the way Bill Evans would comp with high-tension chords in the middle of the keyboard, but not put a root on the bottom of the voicing--kinda float over the bassline? So imagine the bass track muted. It's like that.
Eh, the bridge is straight ahead, anyway...
I originally used a guitar for the chords.
I unpacked my M-Audio keyboard, and after an hour of trying to get some sound out of my setup,
I think I can say your chords are pretty much dead on. What I get differs only by a single note in
a single chord, your Emaj7.
I called it a G#m7; it should be called Abm7 I think.
So Ebmaj7 Dm7 Fmaj7 Abm7
The intro on a keyboard, all voiced close (not a low bass note):
Ebmaj7 - Eb G Bb D
Dm7 - D F A C
Fmaj7 - F A C E
Abm7 - Gb Ab B Eb
Emaj7 - E Ab B Eb
Also, I connected the computer to the stereo along with the keyboard/synth.
(I was listening to the song on youtube)
Listening again, I think the "bass" is more than just an F note throughout.
What I now hear:
Ebmaj7 / Bb bass note
Dm7 / A bass note
Fmaj7 / F bass note
Abm7 / F bass note
The chords from the intro, which I think remain the same in the verse, take on a whole new sound
with those bass notes. Possibly the roots are left out on the keyboard during the singing, also. May
just be the upper 3 notes.
Just get a set of fairy bells and play those through this tune.
Emaj /??? Not sure on this.. definitely chromatic but..... I'm going to try in the morning
Thanks, all, for the posts!
It's an interesting ear training challenge, I figure. :cool:
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