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09-23-2011, 11:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN | | | Deliberate practice instruction book any good?
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There's a guy named Paul who has a series of videos on YouTube called How To Play Bass. British guy, good instruction. He has a book/video that focuses on "Deliberate Practice" that is supposed to help you make steady progress by not wasting time. Goes for about $67. Anybody tried it? | 
09-24-2011, 03:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NB, Canada | | | i haven't looked at it but that is fairly steep for pricing ....although a lot of time can be lost or wasted in practicing the same old ....
if you're youtubing ...check out marloweDK ...all free all brilliant...depending on your ability it may be too advanced but that's for you to decide.....there's all kinds of stuff out of hal leonard ...books DVDs etc for much lower $ | 
09-24-2011, 03:10 PM
| | | | I want to check this marlowe dude out. But I cannot right now, so I am commenting to keep track of this post. Yes...
oh, and to the OP... Nope. Have not checked it out.
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09-24-2011, 08:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Paul Wolfe is fantastic. His Deliberate Practice method works. I like his music choices, so I am biased, but I think he really is a top-notch teacher and his approach works well. | 
09-25-2011, 12:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN | | | Thanks, Lacuda. I should say that $67 isn't just for a book -- it's a book, CD, video, etc. And I like his music selections, too. I started with DKMarlowe, but I just think Paul is a little more organized and easy to follow. Is concentrating on getting a lot across and doing so through songs that I'd likely play. | 
09-25-2011, 09:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN | | | Sorry -- should have written "Lacuga." Can you give some details on what you've learned from Paul's Deliberate Practice approach and how it compares with what you were doing before? | 
09-25-2011, 11:23 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Basically, Paul's approach is twofold: play real songs right away, and consciously get out of your comfort zone when practicing. He is not an advocate of doing scales, that's for sure. He also eschews the shortcut approach to learning. His taste in music, especially Motown and 60s and 70s rock, is appealing to me. The method is to push your learning forward by having you really understand how the best players like Jamerson did what they did, and then do it yourself, in manageable chunks. He advocates learning to sight read music, not tab. He also advocates transcribing music to build your chops. The idea also is to keep written track of your progress. In the end, Paul's theory is that "genius" is largely made, not born, through a consistent, disciplined approach, but one that is really fun by playing great songs right from the start.
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09-25-2011, 02:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | Where might this be available?
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09-25-2011, 10:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN | | | Wow -- just what I wanted to hear! Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacuga Basically, Paul's approach is twofold: play real songs right away, and consciously get out of your comfort zone when practicing. He is not an advocate of doing scales, that's for sure. He also eschews the shortcut approach to learning. His taste in music, especially Motown and 60s and 70s rock, is appealing to me. The method is to push your learning forward by having you really understand how the best players like Jamerson did what they did, and then do it yourself, in manageable chunks. He advocates learning to sight read music, not tab. He also advocates transcribing music to build your chops. The idea also is to keep written track of your progress. In the end, Paul's theory is that "genius" is largely made, not born, through a consistent, disciplined approach, but one that is really fun by playing great songs right from the start.
. | Thanks so much. Great info in this post and very convincing! I'm a huge Jamerson fan -- got the Standing in the Shadows of Motown book years ago --and the idea of getting anywhere near his style and ability is really exciting. Agree too that tabs are not the way to gain real skill -- you have to know what you're playing if you're going to create your own lines as well as sight read. Sounds like just what I need. | 
09-25-2011, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C.Linton Where might this be available? | Here: How To Play Bass | 
09-27-2011, 01:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London | | | Only just seen the thread - too busy to check Talkbass three times a day like I used to!
Firstly - @Lacuga - thanks for the kind words. really appreciate them - and really glad to see you taking the material and actually applying it. (There are too many people out there looking for a short cut, quick fix, magic button approach. Do this and you'll be transformed overnight into a serious player. That 'magic button' doesn't exist).
Secondly @Mr Gone - if you have any questions, feel free to ask them. Either here - or via email. I'll be happy to answer them.
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09-27-2011, 09:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Saint Paul, MN | | | The man himself! Paul, hi -- Great to hear from you and know you are on this forum. I'm pretty convinced to get your Deliberate Practice instruction based on what Lacuga said. But as long as you're offering to answer more questions, I'm wondering if you get into understanding and using modes in the course. Seems like that would be the final piece once a student gets proficient with technique, reading, feel and ear.
Everybody else -- this is not a scam trying to push Paul's stuff. I honestly just came across his videos on YouTube and followed the trail from there. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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