drum machine or effects pedal with drum beat ???

[chetonetwo]

hey guys just looking for a hand in trying to find either a pedal or a simple to use drum machine to give me some beats that I can play along too , just for me in my room nothing to expensive or high tech , also is that what I should be looking for ,? any help would be greatly appreciated
chee
rs dudes

[DeltaPhoenix]

A simple drum machine goes a lot further than what is crammed inside of a multi efx pedal. With practice comes new riffs and song ideas, and they may not fit with the standard 4/4 vanilla beat that is in an efx pedal.
Having some beats in an efx pedal is better than nothing though.

[fivestringgecko]

I picked up a Zoom B3 as a birthday present to myself and have been VERY impressed with it so far. It has a "rhythm trainer" built in... There's a handful of 4/4 beats and a couple 3/4 & 5/4 selections. The rhythm trainer section is fairly limited, but it's there. Overall, the B3 is pretty impressive for only $199 new. I'm fortunate to have a couple "real" pedalboards with some very nice single effects, and while the Zoom isn't quite on their level, it's an incredible value and sounds impressive.

If you have an iPhone/iPad, check out the DM1 drum machine. Fairly robust for not a lot of bucks, decent sound and good features without being overly complicated.

5sg.

[chetonetwo]

yeah that's exactly what I was thinking , do drum machines come with different beats already there to use or do I have to program that stuff myself ? im just a newbie when it comes to all this stuff so I really appreciate your help , thanks heaps

[basya2]

http://mybeatbuddy.com/

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

I picked up a Zoom B3 as a birthday present to myself and have been VERY impressed with it so far. It has a "rhythm trainer" built in... There's a handful of 4/4 beats and a couple 3/4 & 5/4 selections. The rhythm trainer section is fairly limited, but it's there. Overall, the B3 is pretty impressive for only $199 new. I'm fortunate to have a couple "real" pedalboards with some very nice single effects, and while the Zoom isn't quite on their level, it's an incredible value.

If you have an iPhone/iPad, check out the DM1 drum machine. Fairly robust for not a lot of bucks, decent sound and good features without being overly complicated.

5sg.

ok awesome ill look into that straight away , thanks heaps man

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix

A simple drum machine goes a lot further than what is crammed inside of a multi efx pedal. With practice comes new riffs and song ideas, and they may not fit with the standard 4/4 vanilla beat that is in an efx pedal.
Having some beats in an efx pedal is better than nothing though.

yeah that's exactly what I was thinking , do drum machines come with different beats already there to use or do I have to program that stuff myself ? im just a newbie when it comes to all this stuff so I really appreciate your help , thanks heaps

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by chetonetwo

ok awesome ill look into that straight away , thanks heaps man

For sure.

Most actual drum machines come with preprogrammed beats, as far as I know. I have a Boss DR-880 that has a lot of stuff in it... You can get really in depth and program you own beats and complete songs, or you can just turn the wheel and press play to use the drum loops programmed from the factory.

DM1 would be a great place to start if you're thinking of the drum machine route, kinda like a gateway drug. Lol It's pretty easy to program and doesn't sound too bad. I have the iPad version, which I *think* has a more features than the iPhone version...?

5sg.

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by basya2

http://mybeatbuddy.com/

that sounds pretty dam sweet , thank you , do you know if they are out in the states yet /
I live in Australia

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

For sure.

Most actual drum machines come with preprogrammed beats, as far as I know. I have a Boss DR-880 that has a lot of stuff in it... You can get really in depth and program you own beats and complete songs, or you can just turn the wheel and press play to use the drum loops programmed from the factory.

DM1 would be a great place to start if you're thinking of the drum machine route, kinda like a gateway drug. Lol It's pretty easy to program and doesn't sound too bad. I have the iPad version, which I *think* has a more features than the iPhone version...?

5sg.

ok great !! ill have a look into the iphone version and hopefully that will satisfy me till I can put some serious money into a proper machine , thanks again your a top dude , so glad I found this forum !!!

[fivestringgecko]

Always happy to help out and/or talk gear! It's a great forum, lots of people with lots of information. On the same note, finding this forum made my wallet hate me. Lol

5sg.

[DeltaPhoenix]

Originally Posted by chetonetwo

that sounds pretty dam sweet , thank you , do you know if they are out in the states yet /
I live in Australia

This is currently vaporware, they are going to do a KickStarter soon I believe.

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

Always happy to help out and/or talk gear! It's a great forum, lots of people with lots of information. On the same note, finding this forum made my wallet hate me. Lol

5sg.

hahahahahahahahahaha yes I can see that happening real fast hahaha , hey with this DM1 app , do I make my own drum beats to play along too / , what im after is just something to be able to jam too and get some groovesand bass lines happening with ? you think a pre programmed drum machine is the way to ho , I also checked out the link that got posted on this thread , what do you think of that personally ?

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by DeltaPhoenix

This is currently vaporware, they are going to do a KickStarter soon I believe.

vapourware ? , sorry im a necomber to tech talk

[fivestringgecko]

Originally Posted by chetonetwo

hahahahahahahahahaha yes I can see that happening real fast hahaha , hey with this DM1 app , do I make my own drum beats to play along too / , what im after is just something to be able to jam too and get some groovesand bass lines happening with ? you think a pre programmed drum machine is the way to ho , I also checked out the link that got posted on this thread , what do you think of that personally ?

There are a handful of beats preprogrammed in DM1 spanning a couple different styles, but probably not enough to make it something you'd use if you don't want to program at all. However, it's pretty easy to program beats in DM1, it's set up on a grid and you just light up the squares. (Pic below) You can save your beats too. If you feel like digging in further, you can program different patterns within each beat, and there's a sequencer where you can program the different patterns into a song. There are also import/export options if you feel like sharing or backing up to Dropbox. The secret sauce with DM1 is the Swing slider... It took me a minute to figure it out, I wanted to do a shuffle beat and didn't think it could do it until I found that slider, which isn't on the beat programming page for some reason.

I've never heard of that Beat Buddy thing before today, but it seems like it might be something pretty close to what you're looking for. I could definitely see the benefit to having something like that in a pedal form as well. It's cool that they're doing a Kickstarter campaign for it, but it looks like the Beat Buddy is at least 7-8 months out, if it even happens. (delta's vaporware reference)

I just thought of another option that might be worth checking out... EZDrummer from Toontrack. It's a loop based PC program, so you wouldn't be able to take it with you, but for just practicing at home, it might be the ticket. I used it a while back for some scratch idea track stuff, sounds pretty good.

http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=7

Oooo, there's also the Boss RC2 that might be something you'd dig... Boss's smallest phrase sampler, and it has some beats programmed in as well. Phrase samplers are cool because they'll improve both your time AND creativity/improvisation.

NOTHING beats jamming with live musicians though... Just sayin'.

5sg.

[nortonrider]

Originally Posted by chetonetwo

..... just for me in my room nothing to expensive or high tech

Cheap and Simple?
buy this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DigiTech-BP5...item4172208685

Nothing fancy but for just playing in the bedroom, it does the job.
. Plenty of different effects
. 30 pre-programmed drum beats (kinda generic but you can change to tempo to mix it up)
. Tuner
. You can plug your headphones into it.

I've got one and keep it plugged in all of the time.
It is one of the more "entry level" modeling processors, but it works just fine for me and what I do.
Cheap and Simple = Good in my book.

[Bassamatic]

The BeatBuddy is now in development - they are getting some final feedback from potential users to determine the features. It seems that there will be 2 versions - a sinmple one with pre-programmed beats, drum sets and storage, and a high-end version where the user can create his own rhythm tracks on a computer and download to the pedal. Sounds Awesome!! Can't wait to get one.

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by nortonrider

Cheap and Simple?
buy this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DigiTech-BP5...item4172208685

Nothing fancy but for just playing in the bedroom, it does the job.
. Plenty of different effects
. 30 pre-programmed drum beats (kinda generic but you can change to tempo to mix it up)
. Tuner
. You can plug your headphones into it.

I've got one and keep it plugged in all of the time.
It is one of the more "entry level" modeling processors, but it works just fine for me and what I do.
Cheap and Simple = Good in my book.

yeah that's what im after man , thanks for the help really appreciate it , I should have been onto this considering my dad had this exact one but for guitar which I would be using except for the fact the drum button is broken hahahahaha was in front of me the whole time !!!!

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by Bassamatic

The BeatBuddy is now in development - they are getting some final feedback from potential users to determine the features. It seems that there will be 2 versions - a sinmple one with pre-programmed beats, drum sets and storage, and a high-end version where the user can create his own rhythm tracks on a computer and download to the pedal. Sounds Awesome!! Can't wait to get one.

yeah man it sounds really cool !!!!

[chetonetwo]

Originally Posted by fivestringgecko

There are a handful of beats preprogrammed in DM1 spanning a couple different styles, but probably not enough to make it something you'd use if you don't want to program at all. However, it's pretty easy to program beats in DM1, it's set up on a grid and you just light up the squares. (Pic below) You can save your beats too. If you feel like digging in further, you can program different patterns within each beat, and there's a sequencer where you can program the different patterns into a song. There are also import/export options if you feel like sharing or backing up to Dropbox. The secret sauce with DM1 is the Swing slider... It took me a minute to figure it out, I wanted to do a shuffle beat and didn't think it could do it until I found that slider, which isn't on the beat programming page for some reason.

I've never heard of that Beat Buddy thing before today, but it seems like it might be something pretty close to what you're looking for. I could definitely see the benefit to having something like that in a pedal form as well. It's cool that they're doing a Kickstarter campaign for it, but it looks like the Beat Buddy is at least 7-8 months out, if it even happens. (delta's vaporware reference)

I just thought of another option that might be worth checking out... EZDrummer from Toontrack. It's a loop based PC program, so you wouldn't be able to take it with you, but for just practicing at home, it might be the ticket. I used it a while back for some scratch idea track stuff, sounds pretty good.

http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item=7

Oooo, there's also the Boss RC2 that might be something you'd dig... Boss's smallest phrase sampler, and it has some beats programmed in as well. Phrase samplers are cool because they'll improve both your time AND creativity/improvisation.

NOTHING beats jamming with live musicians though... Just sayin'.

5sg.

you sir are a champion thanks heaps for all the info , im now off in the right direction , already have the app so hopefully I can get my head around that and have some fun , thanks again

chet.