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05-16-2007, 01:31 PM
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I play primarily upright bass, which seems somewhat more conducive to swing due to the percussive attack and rapid decay. That said, the instrument is a huge pain in the butt to lug, maintain, amplify, etc. Not looking for debates/flame wars about "the sound" or which is better, etc. but rather examples of an electric approach that conveys a swing feel effectively.
Looking for role models to practice with -- who have you heard that you didn't say; "that should be an upright" even in a situation where the upright would fit naturally (e.g. fairly straight ahead jazz).
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05-16-2007, 02:43 PM
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05-16-2007, 03:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | Swing, Groove same thing it locking in and playing with a feel. Check out some John Patitucci, Jame Genus is an upright player who mainly plays electric. Christian McBride is hot. Reggie Hamilton doubles on gigs all the time and can Swing hard. Brian Bromberg. I think you will find a lot of electric player double these days.
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05-16-2007, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DocBop  Swing, Groove same thing it locking in and playing with a feel. Check out some John Patitucci, Jame Genus is an upright player who mainly plays electric. Christian McBride is hot. Reggie Hamilton doubles on gigs all the time and can Swing hard. Brian Bromberg. I think you will find a lot of electric player double these days. |
All of the players that you mention are generally in a position that THEY can call the shots as to which instrument they use on gigs and, almost without exception, they use the upright on music that is in the contemporary mainstream jazz style. When they do use electric, it's mostly in a pop/funk/latin based music.
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05-16-2007, 04:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Thanks, guys -- I checked out a bunch of Steve Swallow clips on YouTube. Very unique, interesting, musical voice. Sort of reminds me of Haden in his minimalism. Great stuff.
Many thanks as well for the Willis clip with Shorter! I have only seen Gary play his more fusion-y stuff. I've always admired his breathtaking chops, but the tunes have left me a bit cold. Great to see him swinging hard behind some jazz greats.
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05-16-2007, 05:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Finland | | This might not be exactly what you asked for, but these small silicone string basses are said to have a tone very similar to upright basses.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashbory_bass
Does anyone here use one of these or know someone who does? Would be cool to try out one, only drawback IMO is they look so silly... 
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05-16-2007, 06:03 PM
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05-18-2007, 12:14 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: New York, NY | | | Add Mark Egan and Victor Bailey to your list. Bailey almost always plays with a swing feel.
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05-18-2007, 04:48 PM
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Jeff Berlin
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05-18-2007, 05:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK | | | Mike mundasir, brother of drummer mark mundasir is a legend. He plays with Django Bates in the UK and is the only electric player who I feel can play a ballad and not leave you wishing he was on upright!
he can swing some too.
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05-19-2007, 09:36 AM
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05-19-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X Check out Dave Carpenter. |
Man, I saw Dave Carpenter YEARS ago with Maynard Furgeson playing the first electric upright I'd ever seen and he blew me away! One of those pivotal moments to a developing player, he gave me a glimpse of what was possible.
Thanks for the reminder....
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05-19-2007, 08:49 PM
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05-19-2007, 10:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles | | | Willis is swinging great in that clip. Sounds awesome and perfect intonation. I had to listen to twice to realize it wasn't an upright player using nylon strings - so many players of that era sounded like that.
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05-19-2007, 10:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hattiesburg, MS 39401 | | | The five swingin-est electric bass players I can think of are:
+ Steve Swallow
+ Marcus Miller (only guy I've ever heard swing hard while slapping)
+ John Patitucci
+ Jeff Berlin
+ Gary Willis
Check out Patitucci's new album, Line by Line. He is pushing the EB into a more acoustic jazz setting ala Steve Swallow. This is what I personally am trying to grow into as a player. |
05-19-2007, 10:39 PM
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05-24-2007, 07:16 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Virginia | | | Deacon Blues - A piano player I know got one for recording some tracks on. It was fretless and actually got a pretty cool sound. Definitely not the attack of a double bass, but interesting and mellow. |
05-24-2007, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Charling Mike mundasir, brother of drummer mark mundasir is a legend. He plays with Django Bates in the UK and is the only electric player who I feel can play a ballad and not leave you wishing he was on upright!
he can swing some too. | I've seen both Mike and Mark at my local Jazz club, but I believe their surname is spelled : "Mondesir" !
This will help if you are searching for music or clips on the net!
Two more Brit Jazz BG players would be Laurence Cottle and Thad Kelly!
Although again as Ed says - those guys that double in Jazz tend to use DB for the swingin' tunes and then play BG for funkier or rockier tunes... 
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06-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield I've seen both Mike and Mark at my local Jazz club, but I believe their surname is spelled : "Mondesir" !
This will help if you are searching for music or clips on the net!
Two more Brit Jazz BG players would be Laurence Cottle and Thad Kelly!
Although again as Ed says - those guys that double in Jazz tend to use DB for the swingin' tunes and then play BG for funkier or rockier tunes... | How did i forget Laurence...and of course Fred Thelonius Baker (Yes he's my teacher, but seriously, swings hard) | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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