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Thanks for answering my secondary dominants question, I now would like to know about extended dominants. I heard some and they sounded awesome.
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Do you mean Dominants with extentions? Altered dominants?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking....
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A dominant 7 chord is the 1, 3, 5, and b7 of the scale (C7 is C E G Bb). Add extensions above the 7th, in thirds to get 9, 13, etc.

C9 functions the same as C7, but that 9th (the D) adds a nice flavor.

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I suppose its worth mentioning:

extended dominants = 1 3 5 b7 chords plus a 9, 11, or 13

altered dominants = 1 3 b7 with a sharped or flattened 5, 9, 11, or 13.

in a dominant chord, the maj 3rd and flat 7th are never altered (cuz then it wouldn't be a dominant chord)
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I suppose its worth mentioning:

extended dominants = 1 3 5 b7 chords plus a 9, 11, or 13

altered dominants = 1 3 b7 with a sharped or flattened 5, 9, 11, or 13.

in a dominant chord, the maj 3rd and flat 7th are never altered (cuz then it wouldn't be a dominant chord)
The natural 11th is typically omitted because it creates a minor 9th between inner voices. Sounds bad.
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He probably means extended dominants in the Berklee definition of extended level dominant harmony. Which is to say, a series of constant structure dominant chords resolving down in fifths that don't have any particular reference to a key. Extended series normally start on a strong harmonic rhythm, which distinguished them from just regular dominant 7th chords (they're almost always on a weak harmonic position in popular music). The bridge to rhythm changes is considered to have extended dominants. Perhaps a better example is the bridge to Jordu.

You can have extended subV's as well - constant structure dominant seventh chord resolving down by half step. This is a trick favored by cats like Billy Strayhorn (Chelsea Bridge, Lush Life).
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HaVIC got it

Extended dominants - a series a secondary dominants, or a series of dom7's with no regard for any particular key you're in. Great tool for modulation.

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Extended dominants - a series a secondary dominants, or a series of dom7's with no regard for any particular key you're in. Great tool for modulation.
Or in my day called Backcycling. Go up above your target chord and cycle back via dominant 7th via CoF's.
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Constant cycle 5 is another berklee term that describes it. Normally you talk about constant cycles with regards to non-functional patterned harmony involving planing of constant structures, but in this case it's a functional progression - or at least it SOUNDS like one.
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