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Old 09-04-2009, 05:52 PM
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the five position system????

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I just can't figure this out. I have this book called Serious electric bass by joel bartolo. In chaper 9 he talks about the 5 position system, but i just don't get it at all. I've been staring at the books for hours now and no joy! any help would be great.
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http://books.google.ie/books?id=a2DC...20cool&f=false
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:55 PM
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Get your bass out and play the notes.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:51 PM
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I just can't figure this out. I have this book called Serious electric bass by joel bartolo. In chaper 9 he talks about the 5 position system, but i just don't get it at all. I've been staring at the books for hours now and no joy! any help would be great.
Here a link to the chapter online

http://books.google.ie/books?id=a2DC...20cool&f=false

Try Pacman's sure-fire scale practice method It's basically this, stated in another way.

I THINK what he's getting at in the book is that there are basically 7 patterns in a scale, if you start the scale at any given point (root, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) Those 7 patterns he's put into 5 positions.

Because the different modes are based on starting a scale from a different spot (note, based on, not "the same as"), if you memorize the 7 patterns, you've got all the modes for free.

If I play pattern "1", starting on open E, that's the E major scale. If I play pattern "2" starting on the "E", that's E dorian. If I play pattern "3" starting on the open E, that's E Phrygian. Etc.

But, likewise, if I play pattern 2 STARTING on the '2' of E (i.e. F#), that's either F# dorian, or E major but starting on the 2 instead of the root.

My instructor (who also taught Pacman that method) taught me these patterns right off the bat. I don't know all the notes yet, but because I memorized the patterns, I can play any modal scale, in any key, starting at any point of the scale. And no, I can't make it sound good. =) (But I've been playing only a few months, so I'm ok with that.)
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:55 PM
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I could not open the book, so I'm guessing what you are seeing, however, in 6 string guitar every one learns how to take a scale up the neck using 5 different patterns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_qw03-3gFg

No real reason for this except a passage thing to say you can do it. Very seldom - if melody is involved - would you ever hook more than two patterns together. IMHO it does help you know how and where you can grab your notes all over the fretboard. It that is the intent it will have value and come in handy.

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Old 09-05-2009, 04:07 AM
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thanks for your replies. I think it is similar to pacmans thread. cheers all

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