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11-11-2004, 03:30 PM
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What is this chord? F major 7th? F minor 7th? What does that mean?
I can figure out what notes are in a major and a minor chord, but what does the 7 mean?
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11-11-2004, 03:39 PM
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F Ab C Eb
(edited to minimize confusion)
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11-11-2004, 03:39 PM
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The 7 is the seventh note of the chord this case ( Eb )
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11-11-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyle Caldwell F minor 7
F A C Eb | I'd call that an F7, as the minor seventh is implied.
I think it's F Ab C Eb., especially if the following chord is a Bb7 resolving to an Eb.
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11-11-2004, 04:16 PM
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F Ab C Eb
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11-11-2004, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonorous I can figure out what notes are in a major and a minor chord, but what does the 7 mean? | In the case of a minor chord(m7), you use a flat 7(in F that's Eb). With a major seven chord(M7) you use the natural 7(in F that's E). With a seventh chord(F7, or dom7), it's a major chord, but with a flat seven. |
11-11-2004, 09:28 PM
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11-12-2004, 12:59 AM
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11-12-2004, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by geoffkhan Get all that classical music theory out of your system. |
And replace it with what? 
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Originally Posted by Blackbird And replace it with what? | Cookies or furniture.
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11-12-2004, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird I'd call that an F7, as the minor seventh is implied.
I think it's F Ab C Eb., especially if the following chord is a Bb7 resolving to an Eb. | exactly, Fm7 has the Ab, F7 has an A(Natural). The difference between those 2 chords is only the 3rd.
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11-15-2004, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by geoffkhan Get all that classical music theory out of your system. |
Actually, I'd never seen anybody write Fm7 in classical theory - although it comes up very frequently in Jazz!! 
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11-15-2004, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jenderfazz Hmm, I figured the flat 7 was implied since it's a minor scale. Does putting it there have to do with the chord, and what notes should be accentuated by them or something? Or does minor only imply the 3 and the 7 must be marked separately? | If it says m7, it means a minor 3rd and a minor (flat) 7.
The 7 is only marked separately if it's a major (natural) 7. In which case the chord would have been Fm maj7. |
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Actually, I'd never seen anybody write Fm7 in classical theory - although it comes up very frequently in Jazz!! | I needed to know so I could figure some stuff out on the Santana song "Europa"
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