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Old 09-15-2010, 08:41 PM
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I'm having trouble with a little fret buzz on my E string when I lift my fingers after playing a note. I'm almost positive it's me and not the bass because I only do it on the E string. Maybe it's the stretch-I don't know. I'm also having some trouble with my fingers scratching the strings a little when I play...you know, that annoying little zip sound when you rub the strings? Are there any exercises or whatever to improve my technique so I can stop doing this? What about flats? Are they more forgiving?
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That's just one of those things everyone goes through, I think. I can't think of anything to improve that technique other than just playing more. You'll start feeling changes in your playing when you really get to know your way around the neck. Don't be discouraged!
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:59 PM
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Flats don't give you the "zip" when you slide on a string.

Fletch is right; just keep practicing...it'll all work out.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:26 AM
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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I get that buzz pretty much only when I'm lifting my finger after a note, not at the beginning of a note--I can't decide what I'm doing or not doing to cause it. I guess I'll keep plugging along and see what happens. I might try some flats, too.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:17 AM
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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I get that buzz pretty much only when I'm lifting my finger after a note, not at the beginning of a note--I can't decide what I'm doing or not doing to cause it. I guess I'll keep plugging along and see what happens. I might try some flats, too.
Lifting your fretting finger too slowly is one cause of this. You can easily demonstrate it by purposely plucking a note then really slowly lift your finger off the fret.

I have it bad; some days are better than others.
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:23 AM
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I play with my thumb. Because of that a palm mute is easy. I've taken it one more step. Foam rubber under the strings at the bridge. Gives an up right bass sound, which I like - and eliminates most of the fret buzz.

Seems the early electric basses had the foam rubber so they WOULD sound more like an up right. Now days the rubber has been eliminated so we can get that electric sound.

Foam rubber and palm mute is doing what I need. Cost a couple of dollars to try it out.

Good luck.

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Old 09-16-2010, 10:02 AM
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Lifting your fretting finger too slowly is one cause of this.
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You can minimize this with practice. But IMO, a little bit of fret/string noise is inherent to the sound of a modern fretted bass, and not necessarily a bad thing. That's how you can tell it's a real bass guitar, not a keyboard sample!

If you use flats or eq or foam, etc. to cover it up, then you're significantly compromising your tone to solve this "problem". And you're not addressing the real issue, which is your technique.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:24 AM
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Probably a thread for the technique forum.

Diagnosing fret buzz:

1.) does it buzz when you are amplified and playing at regular volume?
unamplified fret buzz is a non-issue
My expensive bass with a pro setup will still buzz when unplugged. But not when I'm amplified...

2.)Is it my technique or is it my instrument setup?

Turn up the volume, cleanly fret a note (right on top or just behind the fret), and pluck lightly.
Keep your fretting hand in place after plucking.
If if buzzes while let ring the cleanly fretted note, it is likely to be a instrument setup issue.
Which could be string height OR neck bow/truss rod.

(since it only happens on your E string, I'd suggest raising the E string up first)

If it only buzzes when you are playing phrases and riffs, it is likely to be a technique issue, generally lifting your fingers off the string too slowly.

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try this exercise
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Put all 4 fingers on the E string, 1 finger per fret, starting wherever that 4 fret stretch is comfortable.
press them all against the string enough to fret a note ( avoid the 'death grip')
One at a time, starting with the pinky, lift a finger off the E and move it onto the A string. keep the remaining fingers in place
Conciously move each finger in three steps : UP, ACROSS, DOWN.
After you move your pinky, move the ring finger keeping all the other fingers in place
Then move your middle finger, then your index finger keeping all the other fingers in place.
after that, Starting with your pinky, reverse the movenment form A string to E string.
(If you are feeling ambitious, you can climb accross all the strings this way -its a great exercise.)

Do this slowly , concentrating on a clean three step motion: UP, ACROSS, DOWN.
It may even help to say it aloud to youself "up", "accross" ," Down" in time with your finger movement.
Keep your left hand relaxed with the minimum pressure needed to fret, move one finger at atome and keep the rest in place.

Once your left hand starts to get used to this motion, start plucking the notes you are fretting.
Chances are you'll get less buzz at this point, but if you still do, renew your concentration on UP, ACROSS, DOWN as you pluck.

Do not worry at all about speed:
the real key to clean technique is practing slowly and steadily until your muscles begin to remember the movements.
If playign a riff at speed causes your technique to slip, simply slow it down until your hands get used to the motion.

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Old 09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
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Hey, great advice guys...I'll definitely try those exercises, mambo, thanks. I'm taking my bass in to make sure it's set up correctly this weekend (only $25 ) and probably put a set of flats on it just to see how I like them. I just got back into playing and I try to at least run scales, spider walk and play with a song or two every day. It's coming back slowly, but I like it! I've been trying to learn some slap and pop, too, but so far my slap and pop skills are nonexistant... One of these days...
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:14 PM
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Be aware that different strings often require a different setup.
If you dig flats as a sound, cool , but don't choose flats just to compensate for technique.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:53 PM
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I've always played with rounds, so I figure I'll give the flats a try and see how I like em...I'll save the old strings just in case.
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